Hypothermia Prevention

Thought this was worth having it's own thread
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Great site on Preventing Hypothermia: Hypothermia Prevention, What to do to survive in water.

To purchase a life-jacket or a Personal Flotation Devise (PFD):

Susan
 
Uhmmmm...what alarm?

I don't think they had those in those days on board ship. And the last place most passengers thought they would end up is in the freezing waters of the Atlantic when the crisis was in its beginning stages, or at least until all of the life boats were gone.
 
I think that if the titanic had alarms, people would have panicked alot sooner, in turn more lives could have been lost. but then again, it is hypothetical. tell me if you agree, i'd like to know.
 
Well, it depends on the type of alarms sounded. There have been quite a few good studies on the psychology of panic released in the last few years, in which the human response to disaster has been analysed. To reduce the findings down to a simplistic level, an alarm coupled with the presense of authority figures giving direction and clear cut instructions on what to do, results in more lives saved than when people are left to their own devices. Hardly sounds like a rocket-science discovery, but a surprising number of people who should know better, many in positions of authority who may need at some point to actually to supervise a fast evacuation, still subscribe to the 'people are like ungovernable cattle in these situations' theory. Panic tends to result when people, usually at the back of the line, begin to realise that not everyone is going to escape. Take, for instance, the Beverly Hills Supper Club Fire, which highlights both points I am making. In that case, a fire broke out at the front of a large nightclub establishment, at the rear of which was a dinner theatre where 1100-1300 people were awaiting a performance by John Davidson. The people in areas of the building from where the fire was visible (perhaps as many as 2000 people) evacuated successfully, but the people in the theatre were unaware that a fast moving fire was bearing down on them. An 18 year old busboy, who was aware of the fire destroying the front end of the building, took it upon himself to go onstage (the owners of the nightclub, although presnt and aware of the fire, did not) to advise the audience of the fire and the location of the (obstructed) exits, in a clear and direct manner. The result was that the majority of people in the room escaped, despite the obstructed and inadequate exits, by taking immediate action. They had A) coherent instructions, from B) a staff member who C) remained calm. The 166 people who died in the showroom (2 two women were trapped in a dressing room in another part of the building; the only non showroom fatalities) were those who panicked at the last minute, as the room "flashed over," and jammed towards the exits, in one case piling up nearly eight feet high as they attempted to gain 'advantage' over those ahead of them. Had it not been for the busboy, given the conditions in the room and the speed with which it burned, fatalities would likely have approached 90%. Had those in the room been given just another three minutes (that is to say, if someone had sounded the alarm slightly earlier) the situation which caused the deaths would likely have been avoided.


It is tempting to play 'second guess' with the Titanic evacuation, but the fact is that for every argument against the means by which the ship was evacuated there is a compelling counter argument, so the best one can hope for is a 'draw.'
 
>>tell me if you agree, i'd like to know.<<

I don't think you'll find a lot of sailors who would disagree with that. When you have bells, whisles, sirens and the like gonging, blasting and whooping with nobody on hand to take charge, much less even bother to tell you why, you are really asking for the people to turn into the mindless and frightened cattle that Jim mentioned.

What it all boils down to is leadership. If you have good leadership, it can help. If you don't, you're in for some real trouble.
 
Too bad there weren't about two thousand survival suits availiable. My wife and I took a cruise to Glacier Bay in 2001, It would have felt good to have a couple hanging in the closet for that one. I couldn't help thinking about the Titanic's passengers as we passed through that beautiful place
 
well, today a ship isn't as easily sunk. engineering has become so advanced on those things that i wouldn't be worried about sinking, but then again nothing is perfect.
 
That sounds very like what Captain Smith famously said 100 years ago (about the Adriatic): I cannot conceive of any vital disaster happening to this vessel. Modern shipbuilding has gone beyond that. Unfortunately it's no more true now than it was then.
 
>>well, today a ship isn't as easily sunk.<<

Tell that to the passengers and crew of the Estonia, the Oceanos, or the Achille Lauro. Unfortunately, there's no amount of engineering anywhere that can trump human fallibility.
 
Like i said in later in my post of course nothing is perfect. I didn't say that ships don't sink, I said that it's harder to sink them do to advances in technology.
 
>>I said that it's harder to sink them do to advances in technology.<<

Actually, it isn't. The Oceanos was killed by a seachest giving up the ghost and water ingressing by way of the wastewater system which had not been properly blanked off. A trivial mistake that turned out to be not so trivial.

You might be surprised at just how little watertight protection a modern cruise ship has. More then anything else, it's sheer size and a lot of reserve boyancy which makes a ship more difficult to sink.
 
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