malcolm john cheape
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I am having trouble signing on i am trying to post a letter written by lucile carter may 14 to mr ismay
Letter written to Bruce Ismay
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Mike Poirier
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Hi Malcolm
That's odd, I would assume since you signed into the board the same password would apply.
That's odd, I would assume since you signed into the board the same password would apply.
malcolm john cheape
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here is the letter which i hope may be of interest
letter head GWENDA, BRYN MAWR, PENNSYLVANIA
DATED 24TH MAY
Dear Mr Ismay
I want to write you how glad I am that you are home safely. and also how pleased we were to read of the great oration you had in England when you landed for no one realized more than Billy and I did,how much you had been through, and how wonderful you were through it all. The [word unreadable] we all got,and the dreadful things our own press is allowed to say in this country is certainly revolting. and makes us sometimes ashamed that we live here, but fortunately when they go to extremes, it is quickly over,and how it has completely died out,and no one even mentions it,and they are now criticizing something else. I am enclosing a letter to you which Billy received in behalf our chauffeurs widow[mrs Aldworth] he was with us. Would you send her name into the fund, it seems ridiculous to bother you about such a trifle,but I really don't exactly know how to keep her here, there was quite a sum raised at our home, Rotherty Leicester because the chauffeur was the only one lost from there, I hope you are well and that your nerves have it suffered. We are all quite well. i send you many kind wishes,and I hope to see you next winter when we go back to Melton to[hunt? hard to read]
sincerely yours Lucile Carter.
Mrs Thayer is very well,and the boy splended.you will be pleased to hear.
the letter has a pencil mark in bruce ismays writing saying it has been answered.
i hope this is of some interest.i am not sure this is the right place to post it?
[Moderator's note: This post and the posts above, and below were in another subtopic below, but have been moved here. JDT]
letter head GWENDA, BRYN MAWR, PENNSYLVANIA
DATED 24TH MAY
Dear Mr Ismay
I want to write you how glad I am that you are home safely. and also how pleased we were to read of the great oration you had in England when you landed for no one realized more than Billy and I did,how much you had been through, and how wonderful you were through it all. The [word unreadable] we all got,and the dreadful things our own press is allowed to say in this country is certainly revolting. and makes us sometimes ashamed that we live here, but fortunately when they go to extremes, it is quickly over,and how it has completely died out,and no one even mentions it,and they are now criticizing something else. I am enclosing a letter to you which Billy received in behalf our chauffeurs widow[mrs Aldworth] he was with us. Would you send her name into the fund, it seems ridiculous to bother you about such a trifle,but I really don't exactly know how to keep her here, there was quite a sum raised at our home, Rotherty Leicester because the chauffeur was the only one lost from there, I hope you are well and that your nerves have it suffered. We are all quite well. i send you many kind wishes,and I hope to see you next winter when we go back to Melton to[hunt? hard to read]
sincerely yours Lucile Carter.
Mrs Thayer is very well,and the boy splended.you will be pleased to hear.
the letter has a pencil mark in bruce ismays writing saying it has been answered.
i hope this is of some interest.i am not sure this is the right place to post it?
[Moderator's note: This post and the posts above, and below were in another subtopic below, but have been moved here. JDT]
Brian Ahern
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Nice to see you on the board again, Malcolm.
That letter is a fantastic piece of memorabilia. Thanks for sharing it.
That letter is a fantastic piece of memorabilia. Thanks for sharing it.
Mike Poirier
Member
HI Malcolm
What a great letter. Thanks so much for sharing. Makes me wonder if the Carters made one more trip to Melton before they separated?
Mike
What a great letter. Thanks so much for sharing. Makes me wonder if the Carters made one more trip to Melton before they separated?
Mike
Michael Findlay
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I agree that the letter is most interesting. I found it striking that Mrs. Carter mentioned how fortunate she felt that the bad press her husband was receiving had "died out". The newspapers may have moved on to other stories, but society never forgot William Carter's escape from the Titanic. It crippled the Carter marriage, and by 1914, it was all over.
I also found it interesting that Lucile Carter seemed to be referring to her husband in a favorable light in her letter. We seem to have been given the impression that the marriage was doomed from the moment William Carter saw his wife on the Carpathia and told her "I had a jolly good breakfast but didn't think you had made it."
Mrs. Carter used her husband's words against him while seeking her divorce on grounds of extreme cruelty - even claiming that he had the left the Titanic before his wife and children.
It was also interesting to note the reference to poor Mr. Aldworth.
I also found it interesting that Lucile Carter seemed to be referring to her husband in a favorable light in her letter. We seem to have been given the impression that the marriage was doomed from the moment William Carter saw his wife on the Carpathia and told her "I had a jolly good breakfast but didn't think you had made it."
Mrs. Carter used her husband's words against him while seeking her divorce on grounds of extreme cruelty - even claiming that he had the left the Titanic before his wife and children.
It was also interesting to note the reference to poor Mr. Aldworth.
Teri Lynn Milch
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Anything Ismay is always of interest, Malcolm.
Thank you for sharing a part of your family's history.
Thank you for sharing a part of your family's history.