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Survivors believed there was something wrong with the propellers or something wrong with the engines themselves and how the ship went slow ahead after the collision. Were they testing the propellers? Were they damaged?
Joseph Wheat:
Q - As you judged it at the time, what did you think it was?
A - Well, I thought she had cast one of her propeller blades. It sounded to me like that.
Q - Have you been on a ship where that has happened?
A - Yes.
Q - And you thought it was that?
A - Yes, I thought it was the same thing.
George Crowe - "I thought one of the propellers had been broken off."
Edward Wheelton - "It felt as if it was the dropping of a propeller or something like that."
William Ward - "I thought at first it was the propeller gone, the way she went."
Dr. Washington Dodge - "When an officer - I do not know his name - hurried by I asked, 'What is the trouble?' He replied: "Something is wrong with the propellers; nothing serious."
William Burke - "I thought probably she had dropped her propeller, or something."
I think Lightoller also said he believed they had lost a propeller.
Do you think the collision had damaged the propeller or the shaft? Now comes a follow up question. Did she make any significant headway or none at all when she went slow ahead?
Boxhall heard the bell ring in the crows nest and proceeded to walk towards the bridge when he felt the collision. That would take a matter of seconds, but Joseph Scarrott said he went out and saw the iceberg "about five or eight minutes" after the crows nest bell rang. Did the iceberg damage the propeller and cause the Titanic to make little headway?
This obviously brings the question that if she did make headway full ahead, then there clearly must have been a second iceberg which Scarrott said he observed "about five or eight minutes" later. QM Olliver saw a blue iceberg taller than the boat deck, yet Boxhall saw a low lying berg lower than the railing on the forewell deck. The survivors said the Titanic was moving slowly and was barely moving forward at all when they saw the iceberg pass the ship. Some even took their time after they felt the jolt and still had time to see the iceberg pass the ship. I asked myself, how is that possible unless there was a second iceberg which caused the ship to stop a second time.
Gretchen Longely felt a jolt which alarmed her and she went onto the corridor twice. She was relieved when she felt the engines going again but when she returned to her cabin a third time she saw ice being pushed against her window and believed the ship actually struck the second iceberg. Doctor Washington Dodge felt the jolt / vibration and after he questioned the officer in the corridor he returned to his cabin and persuaded his wife not to get dressed. He said he went out again and this time:
"A little while later, still feeling nervous, I went up to the promenade deck and there saw a great mass of ice close to the starboard rail....."
Does this mean a second iceberg had caused the fatal damage since Dr. Dodge had observed it a significant time after the first jolt? Was there only one iceberg and it had somehow wedged itself against the ship and the Titanic made little headway all that time? Did the iceberg damage the propeller and despite going slow ahead after the collision she couldn't make any significant headway? Is it possible that a growlers and flow ice were being sucked into the propellers and disturbing the flow of water which stopped her moving forward properly?
Any ideas why an iceberg was seen so long after the jolt which some believed was a problem in the engine room or propellers.
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Survivors believed there was something wrong with the propellers or something wrong with the engines themselves and how the ship went slow ahead after the collision. Were they testing the propellers? Were they damaged?
Joseph Wheat:
Q - As you judged it at the time, what did you think it was?
A - Well, I thought she had cast one of her propeller blades. It sounded to me like that.
Q - Have you been on a ship where that has happened?
A - Yes.
Q - And you thought it was that?
A - Yes, I thought it was the same thing.
George Crowe - "I thought one of the propellers had been broken off."
Edward Wheelton - "It felt as if it was the dropping of a propeller or something like that."
William Ward - "I thought at first it was the propeller gone, the way she went."
Dr. Washington Dodge - "When an officer - I do not know his name - hurried by I asked, 'What is the trouble?' He replied: "Something is wrong with the propellers; nothing serious."
William Burke - "I thought probably she had dropped her propeller, or something."
I think Lightoller also said he believed they had lost a propeller.
Do you think the collision had damaged the propeller or the shaft? Now comes a follow up question. Did she make any significant headway or none at all when she went slow ahead?
Boxhall heard the bell ring in the crows nest and proceeded to walk towards the bridge when he felt the collision. That would take a matter of seconds, but Joseph Scarrott said he went out and saw the iceberg "about five or eight minutes" after the crows nest bell rang. Did the iceberg damage the propeller and cause the Titanic to make little headway?
This obviously brings the question that if she did make headway full ahead, then there clearly must have been a second iceberg which Scarrott said he observed "about five or eight minutes" later. QM Olliver saw a blue iceberg taller than the boat deck, yet Boxhall saw a low lying berg lower than the railing on the forewell deck. The survivors said the Titanic was moving slowly and was barely moving forward at all when they saw the iceberg pass the ship. Some even took their time after they felt the jolt and still had time to see the iceberg pass the ship. I asked myself, how is that possible unless there was a second iceberg which caused the ship to stop a second time.
Gretchen Longely felt a jolt which alarmed her and she went onto the corridor twice. She was relieved when she felt the engines going again but when she returned to her cabin a third time she saw ice being pushed against her window and believed the ship actually struck the second iceberg. Doctor Washington Dodge felt the jolt / vibration and after he questioned the officer in the corridor he returned to his cabin and persuaded his wife not to get dressed. He said he went out again and this time:
"A little while later, still feeling nervous, I went up to the promenade deck and there saw a great mass of ice close to the starboard rail....."
Does this mean a second iceberg had caused the fatal damage since Dr. Dodge had observed it a significant time after the first jolt? Was there only one iceberg and it had somehow wedged itself against the ship and the Titanic made little headway all that time? Did the iceberg damage the propeller and despite going slow ahead after the collision she couldn't make any significant headway? Is it possible that a growlers and flow ice were being sucked into the propellers and disturbing the flow of water which stopped her moving forward properly?
Any ideas why an iceberg was seen so long after the jolt which some believed was a problem in the engine room or propellers.
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