Ash Ejectors
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Samuel Halpern
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Have you seen his 1901 patent?
B-rad
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No. Thanks! I saw the pictures before, but never the description. It answers a bit of a question I had.
The American Engineering and Railroad Journal Vol. LXVII, 1893 (Page 602), states at the time of its publication, that 'See's Hydro-Pneumatic Ash Ejector', had, '...recently been designed and put on the market by Mr. Horace See....'. As the pictures show the patent is 1901, leaving me to scratch my head as to why it wasn't patent for so long. But in the description you have led me to, it clearly states, "In Patent No. 483,770, granted to me October 4, 1892.."
Thanks again!
The American Engineering and Railroad Journal Vol. LXVII, 1893 (Page 602), states at the time of its publication, that 'See's Hydro-Pneumatic Ash Ejector', had, '...recently been designed and put on the market by Mr. Horace See....'. As the pictures show the patent is 1901, leaving me to scratch my head as to why it wasn't patent for so long. But in the description you have led me to, it clearly states, "In Patent No. 483,770, granted to me October 4, 1892.."
Thanks again!
Samuel Halpern
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His 1901 patent was an improvement over his 1892 patent. The pump in the 1901 design could be connected up as bilge pump which I'm sure was done in those BRs where they were able to do so to increase the overall pumping capability of the vessel.
Cam Houseman
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Hi y'all,
where was Titanic's Ash Injector located? I think it's on the Stern, but where?
Here's a picture from "Titanic: Treasure of the Deep" (1992)
I appreciate the help
where was Titanic's Ash Injector located? I think it's on the Stern, but where?
Here's a picture from "Titanic: Treasure of the Deep" (1992)
I appreciate the help
Keith Peterson
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I found this in a post about the disposal of waste. Hope this helps you!
The ash ejectors used a jet of pressurized water to carry ash from a hopper in the boiler room up a tube with a curved top and shoot it away from the side of the ship. The fact that they sprayed a slurry of ash and water is doubtless why they were not used in port.
About every four hours a fireman would clean each of the three furnaces under his care, raking the ash and clinkers onto the stokehold plates. The duty of moving the ash from there to the ash ejector or hoist was that of the trimmers. The ash was probably loaded into a wheelbarrow and trucked to the ejector/hoist. I some cases this meant wheeling it through the passage between the boilers. The trimmer might have to break up the clinkers to get them to fit into the ejector.
You will note that in most cases the ejectors were in the aft end of the large boiler rooms. This makes sense, as the pumps that ran the ejectors were also on the aft side of the boiler rooms. The exception is boiler room #4, which had it, ejectors, forward (the pump is still aft)--I can't tell you why the difference.
The single-ended boilers in boiler room #1 were intended for use in port, so they weren't too concerned with access to the ash ejectors. In port, the ash from #1 was wheeled to the ash hoist in #2 or perhaps #3 (if they were disposing of ash from the port side). Apparently, they didn't generate so much ash that the distance was a big problem. If boiler room #1 was used at sea they had ready access to the two ejectors in #2, via the watertight door in the bulkhead.
@Cal Haines
The ash hoists were used when the ship was in port and the ash ejectors were used at sea. The hoists were basically a block and tackle powered by a steam cylinder that would lift bags of ash from the boiler room up to E-deck, where they could be disposed of through doors in the ship's side to the pier or a barge. I assume that they lowered the ash buckets down to a man waiting below, but I don't know for sure. The reason that the "ash place" was on E-deck is the need for the door and the fact that it had to be above the bulkhead deck. In all cases, the ash hoists were located next to and above an ash ejector.The ash ejectors used a jet of pressurized water to carry ash from a hopper in the boiler room up a tube with a curved top and shoot it away from the side of the ship. The fact that they sprayed a slurry of ash and water is doubtless why they were not used in port.
About every four hours a fireman would clean each of the three furnaces under his care, raking the ash and clinkers onto the stokehold plates. The duty of moving the ash from there to the ash ejector or hoist was that of the trimmers. The ash was probably loaded into a wheelbarrow and trucked to the ejector/hoist. I some cases this meant wheeling it through the passage between the boilers. The trimmer might have to break up the clinkers to get them to fit into the ejector.
You will note that in most cases the ejectors were in the aft end of the large boiler rooms. This makes sense, as the pumps that ran the ejectors were also on the aft side of the boiler rooms. The exception is boiler room #4, which had it, ejectors, forward (the pump is still aft)--I can't tell you why the difference.
The single-ended boilers in boiler room #1 were intended for use in port, so they weren't too concerned with access to the ash ejectors. In port, the ash from #1 was wheeled to the ash hoist in #2 or perhaps #3 (if they were disposing of ash from the port side). Apparently, they didn't generate so much ash that the distance was a big problem. If boiler room #1 was used at sea they had ready access to the two ejectors in #2, via the watertight door in the bulkhead.
Steven Christian
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There's some good info in the thread below. When doing your searches you might want to use the word ejectors instead of injectors. Also Mr. Halpern's article has good info on the ejector system. Cheers.
www.encyclopedia-titanica.org
www.encyclopedia-titanica.org
Waste Disposal
Anyone have any clue what was done with the dirty water, sewage, and other waste products. I have looked at the deck plans and there is no tanks found for this purpose. I would imagine there was holding tanks somewhere and electrical run pumps either ejected it out of the ship to the...
www.encyclopedia-titanica.org
Titanic's Prime Mover
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Cam Houseman
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Thanks a Ton Steven! Yeah Sam is awesomeThere's some good info in the thread below. When doing your searches you might want to use the word ejectors instead of injectors. Also Mr. Halpern's article has good info on the ejector system. Cheers.
Waste Disposal
Anyone have any clue what was done with the dirty water, sewage, and other waste products. I have looked at the deck plans and there is no tanks found for this purpose. I would imagine there was holding tanks somewhere and electrical run pumps either ejected it out of the ship to the...
Steven Christian
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Don't know why your post didn't show up before. Probably the new browser I'm using with cookies turned off. Anyway good post. Thanks.
Roger Southern
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Cam, the picture you posted is a water inlet, probably for the condensers. The ash ejector outlets were round holes in the ships side above the water line.
Cam Houseman
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its ok, he didn't show up for me either until now
Cam Houseman
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oh, my bad, thank you!
Cam Houseman
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thanks Keith! I
