Thanks Seumas. It is decent of you to try to be polite is dismissing those ridiculous statements. I can only think that the good old major's brain must have been more than slightly scrambled when he made those statements. Gold bullion? Overturned lifeboats spilling people into the sea? Was he thinking of the Lusitania on which he was not even on board?
Lord knows what he was upto. The only thing I can think of was that maybe he wanted to give them a more exciting story or something like that. If his deposition ever turns up then we'll know what he really saw.
Agreed, but courage and honesty and two completely different virtues and do not always go hand-in-hand. Charles Lightoller proved himself brave with his actions during the Dunkirk evacuations in 1940 but that does not change the fact that he made several ambiguous statements and told at least a few lies during the Titanic post-disaster inquiries. He might have had reasons for covering up certain things but fact remains that he did so.
That doesn't stop some people from doing exactly that. I'll just leave it at that.
It's necessary. Even in technical papers sometimes context is important.
I wouldn't buy into any of the nonsense and highly recommend Pellegrino's books. "Farewell, Titanic" may be a good one for you, since he was adamant about including a sources list (I actually advised against it, preferring for a longer book, but he shortened it in order to include a thorough list). He ended up removing some Violet Jessop content and published a stand-alone chapter as "The Californian Incident" separately from the original draft, instead, to make room for the list.Oh thats not my book. I grabbed that pic off the Ebay page that was advertising it. I don't have any of Pellegrino's books. I've only read excerpts from his books. I never bought any because of all the bru ha ha that people wrote about his books. It's why I have refrained from commenting on his stuff other than pointing out what others have said because you can't trash somebodies work if you haven't read it. But I did read some of the comments/reviews from other readers and they pretty much aligned with what you said. As for Ebay I recently canceled my account with them. They pissed me off so no yankee dollars from me anymore...
And I am loving it.
Brilliant piece of work. I like to read its contents slowly and mull over to digest the meaning. pp118-119 (of the hardcover) for example explains the reason for the sudden 'lurch' towards the end and also the mechanism of the low-angle break. The Fig 6-28 graph is very illustrative and explanatory.As for books I am reading - I happen to have a two copies of "Report Into the Loss" by a certain someone here, one to keep fresh and one to read
Agreed, his books are right up there with works like sam’s, George Behe’s, and moreI wouldn't buy into any of the nonsense and highly recommend Pellegrino's books. "Farewell, Titanic" may be a good one for you, since he was adamant about including a sources list (I actually advised against it, preferring for a longer book, but he shortened it in order to include a thorough list). He ended up removing some Violet Jessop content and published a stand-alone chapter as "The Californian Incident" separately from the original draft, instead, to make room for the list.
It's also his highest rated Titanic book, presumably for this reason, although Pellegrino has provided sources for other claims in the past. I admire the desire to refrain from bashing works one hasn't read, although why do so at all, IMO.
That said, one can never blame the authors for such errors.
As for books I am reading - I happen to have two copies of "Report Into the Loss" by a certain someone here, one to keep fresh and one to read
I am the same way. I believe the break occurred at 25 degrees or so, but have not yet read Samuel’s analysis in the book. Will be interesting to see that perspective.
Sam explains very clearly the reasons for the low angle break. It is in fact, simple in terms of reasoning. Look at the graph (Fig 6-28, p119) that calculates the stress on the keel (Bending effect) against the ships angle of trim. The maximum stress would be at around 12 degrees. Sam's analogy of the baseball bat to understand this is also very apt.
I saw that, and chuckled. It's almost as terrible as individuals who leave 1-star reviews because Amazon sent them an item damaged in the mail. Shame on the author for not being present night and day at the printers to personally ensure each order was fulfilled to maximum quality. Nevermind that "SS Titanic" was written on the plaques of all the lifeboats, and is equally valid. I'll never understand people that scour entire tomes of well-researched and original material for typos and trivia and miss the entire point and effort of the volume in an attempt to discredit it. I have witnessed this time and again with Dr. Pellegrino's books, overlooking downblast theory, his peer-reviewed research with Roy Cullimore and entire file of records from Walter Lord, in favor of petty nonsense. For example, a reviewer accused Pellegrino of claiming he had sailed with Ballard on the Titanic discovery mission and being a liar, when in fact, Pellegrino's book explicitly states he sailed with Ballard after he discovered Titanic, to the East Pacific Rise on the Melville, a completely different expedition, different ship, and different ocean basin.
