Lusitania The Movie

Eric

Have you scripted or storyboarded any of this?
I already have seen the film, at least the one I would shoot, in my head. I have scripted several scenes and created some storyboards.

cheers

Martin
 
Hi Martin,
actually, this is the first time I thought about it. I see a LOT of opportunities here, as mentioned. Although busy working on a project regarding her faster sister, I would be interested in seeing what you have envisioned and bouncing ideas if you'd like to share in a PM.

Best,
Eric
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The good thing is that you could reasonably stretch the 18 minutes as you would have to show the event from different points of view; from the various crew to various passengers, etc...
 
I wish now I had kept the names and addresses of the two Irishmen who were so interested in pursuing this project. One claimed to be a film writer and the other a producer(?). They said they had made other documentaries. Eric, the scene you envision would truly be fantastic, a family at peace on a quite afternoon watching the horror of war as the Lusy flounders. My aunt, who was an executive secretary at MGM, said at one time MGM had thought about making a film of this adventure. I do hope some one, some how, some time, will take on the endeavor to film this epic story.
 
I think the exact opposite....Titanic was no Lusitania. Titanic is romance, legend and myth....beautiful blown up stories of men going down like gentlemen and Thomas Andrews standing over the fireplace looking at the picture of Plymouth. Titanic is all about passion, romance, futility.

Lusitania is a cold, hard reality of war...babies dying in the arms of mothers, chaos, insanity...all within the eyes of the PEOPLE that sank her. A symbol of British beauty reduced to a scrap of metal on the ocean floor...in less than 20 minutes. In my opinion Titanic doesn't even hold a candle to the lesser told story of the Lusitania.

And if there is ever a major motion picture made about the Lusitania I think that they need to stay away from the "Titanic" storyline as much as possible. There are still some die hard Titanic/Steamship buffs who HATED "Titanic". I mean, did you see what they did to Murdoch and "Lights"?

By trying to connect the two ships you will be essentially comparing apples and oranges. Sure they were both British Steamships...the pinnacle of modern shipbuilding. However, their lives and deaths were as different as night and day...White Star and Cunard.
 
I think the time is ripe for a Lusiatnia-based film.
George Clooney seems to be into making politically contentious movies at the moment. I believe a film based around the politcal intrigue of the day would be a hit. Churchill's shenangans and foreign policy, withdrawing naval escorts, the smearing of Capt Turner at the court case.
Plenty to go at there.
 
I wouldn't read too much into the withdrawing of naval escorts. The fact is that the Lusitania was sufficiently speedy enough that most any warship would have had a problem keeping up. As to whether or not Captain Turner's name was smeared, you can go to The Lusitania Inquiry Transcripts and read the actual testimony for yourself and form your opinion accordingly.

You may also want to read Bailey and Ryan's "The Lusitania Disaster: An Episode in Modern Warfare and Diplomacy." The book is long out of print, but copies can still be had by way of the used book networks.
 
Hi, Have read (and have a copy of; from the Public Records Office in Kew))the Titanic Inquiry - chaired by the same Lord Mersey! The American Inquiry went much deeper, and with more pointed and relevent questions being asked!
I have also read Coilin Simpson's 'Lusitania' and Peeke, Walsh-Johnson, & Johnson's 'The Lusitania Story'. None of these inspires much confidence in the Admiralty's findings!

Dave
 
I don't know much about Peeke, but I would be extremely cautious with anything claimed by Colin Simpson. The Bailey and Ryan book was written in response to it and they destroy a lot of his conclusions.

As to the findings of Mersey's work, I won't say it's inappropriate to be suspicious of their findings. Still, there is the actual testimony which is a matter of record which is there for you to read and draw your own conclusions from.
 
Dave- For reasons too numerous to list here, neither of those books should inspire confidence. A friendly suggestion- track down the American Limitation of Liability hearings transcripts. At .50 per page, photocopied, and more than 500 pages of first person testimony, it is not inexpensive but worth every penny. A few surprises contained within-for instance, there WAS a military vessel of some sort that sailed alongsise the Lusitania that morning before picking up speed and steaming away from her- witnessed by among others Belle Naish and Maude Thompson (independent of one another) and their husbands, both of whom died that afternoon.

There has never been a first rate Lusitania book, at least from the political angle, and Hoehling and Moloney's works are pretty much it in the worthwhile passenger accounts file. Your best bet is to forget everything you've thus far read and amass as much primary research as you can. In descending order:

Limitation of Liabilty testimony: Must Have

Prichard Letters: Imperial War Museum.

Wesley Frost Papers

Cunard Archives: much garbage, but at the same time much gold to be found.

Mixed Claims Commission Files: not the printed summary but the actual case files of the US passengers suits against Germany.

US "Second City" newspapers: The big city dailies were great for photos, but smaller cities tended to be more aggressive in pursuing letters home from survivors, and interviews when they started coming home later in May and on into June.

The Mersey Hearings, although necessary, are of middling value. The expense incurred in collecting the sources listed above is more than justified by the amount you will learn that hasn't made the books. Yet.
 
Hi Jim

"...track down the American Limitation of Liability hearings transcripts."

This is something I'd love to see on the internet.
How would I go about getting a copy of this from New Zealand? I'd like nothing more than to go over and access and read those primary sources you cite.

cheers

Martin
 
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