OceanGate Expedition 2021

[Steven Christian]

here is an update from NBC news:
update

Some notes:
1) Newscaster said "the Oceangate expedition team said the ship is rapidly deteriorating". I wonder if this was more of a general statement of if they observed new damage.

2) They plan to make these dives an annual tradition

3) There is one week left of dives as of Aug 2nd, so I suspect the trip is over or only has a few days remaining

4) They reconfirmed their goal of making a 3D image to track decay

Well from that newscast they certainly seem to have some talented people on their team. It would be nice to see them to be able to keep returning. I will have to go read up on the site/organization to see how they are funded. Got to keep having the peso's coming in. These things are expensive to do. Cheers.

 

[RiffRanger]

I'd love to see an attempt to use some kind of mud-penetrating imaging to confirm that the center propeller had three blades, not four. For some reason, a lot of people seem really hesitant to accept H&W documents as actual evidence.

 

[samson]

I'm considering going on this next year but I would like to know how many of the 6 missions actually made it to the wreck this year? One mission specialist documented the trip on his YouTube and he states that he and his group did not get a chance to go to the wreck. From a conversation I had with another person who also went, Mission 1 and 2 did not make it to the wreck site and those individuals will be coming back next year (I'm assuming free of charge).

I can't seem to find the details of Mission 3. It seems that Mission 4 was the only group to make it to the wreck?

 

[Cam Houseman]

I'm considering going on this next year but I would like to know how many of the 6 missions actually made it to the wreck this year? One mission specialist documented the trip on his YouTube and he states that he and his group did not get a chance to go to the wreck. From a conversation I had with another person who also went, Mission 1 and 2 did not make it to the wreck site and those individuals will be coming back next year (I'm assuming free of charge).

I can't seem to find the details of Mission 3. It seems that Mission 4 was the only group to make it to the wreck?

I think because of conditions at the site which prevented them from diving. IIRC, a Hurricane also passed by, which they had to around to avoid.

 

[Cam Houseman]

New stuff!

TONS of great pictures, finally!

Titanic Expedition – Explore the Titanic - OceanGate Expeditions

You can dive to the bottom of the ocean to explore the Titanic. Dive with us to see the world's most famous shipwreck with your own eyes.

oceangateexpeditions.com

Some concerning: The Officer's quarters

Cranes

Hull

And other areas.

 

[samson]

So it appears this is the only mission to have made it to the wreck this year. Hopefully next year all the missions make it.

 

[Steven Christian]

New stuff!
View attachment 77641

TONS of great pictures, finally!

Titanic Expedition – Explore the Titanic - OceanGate Expeditions

You can dive to the bottom of the ocean to explore the Titanic. Dive with us to see the world's most famous shipwreck with your own eyes.

oceangateexpeditions.com

Some concerning: The Officer's quarters

Cranes

Hull

And other areas.

Huge improvement on the viewing ports.

 

[Southampton]

Huge improvement on the viewing ports. View attachment 77645

Absolutely. This is simply stunning.

What a remarkable feeling it must be to be down there and see the wreck just some feet away from you.

 

[Cam Houseman]

Absolutely. This is simply stunning.

What a remarkable feeling it must be to be down there and see the wreck just some feet away from you.

Yeah, really! I'd use my phone to record the wreck too, lol.

 

[Cam Houseman]

Actual footage, yippee!

 

[Steven Christian]

I'll post the video from the article below if you don't want to read it. She's really deteriorating fast it seems from a few years ago.

The disappearing bathtub and OceanGate’s other tales of the Titanic’s rapid decay

 

[Bridget A Buxton]

Hi all. OceanGate on their YouTube channel and website is going to try to release new videos just as soon as they can be produced from the footage; there are new stills being posted regularly. There is TONS of new footage from the stern and debris field, including areas that our Titanic experts had not seen before. The task of going through it all and comparing it to available footage from earlier expeditions is going to take a long time. Can confirm the bathtub is still there, actually PH Nargeolet confirmed they knew this in Five Deeps Expedition: it was just filled up with debris. Somehow in 2019 this got misreported in the press that it had fallen through the floor. Interestingly it's his opinion (and mine now too, having seen the site) that the 'fast decay' hypothesis is probably too pessimistic. What's happening visibly is that the decks in the bow are 'compressing' down and filling with debris - I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron got the last really good footage of the interior. The stern decks are buckled and rippled like an ocean and the bow is visibly 'rotting' and collapsing inwards from the back . So while we're likely to see some of the more iconic and fragile sections around e.g. the officers' quarters, boat deck, Marconi room, mast, etc look quite different in 10-20 years time, it's hard to imagine there's not still going to be a vast amount still standing and very recognizable; I wouldn't be surprised if the reciprocating engines look exactly the same in a century. My main takeaway from 2021: the site is VAST and the previously published maps, including sonar mosaics, have a lot of issues. The one iconic area that we didn't really get a good look at were the props - lights were not strong enough and it was a dangerous area to get close to. The sub overall has excellent control and agility near the wreck but Cameron was right - you ideally need a second light source down there to get the big panorama shots, which in the stern section I think would be especially mind-blowing. The stern doesn't get enough love imo!

 

[Cam Houseman]

I'll post the video from the article below if you don't want to read it. She's really deteriorating fast it seems from a few years ago.

The disappearing bathtub and OceanGate’s other tales of the Titanic’s rapid decay

Awesome thank you!

OH, how could I forget.

 

[Steven Christian]

Hi all. OceanGate on their YouTube channel and website is going to try to release new videos just as soon as they can be produced from the footage; there are new stills being posted regularly. There is TONS of new footage from the stern and debris field, including areas that our Titanic experts had not seen before. The task of going through it all and comparing it to available footage from earlier expeditions is going to take a long time. Can confirm the bathtub is still there, actually PH Nargeolet confirmed they knew this in Five Deeps Expedition: it was just filled up with debris. Somehow in 2019 this got misreported in the press that it had fallen through the floor. Interestingly it's his opinion (and mine now too, having seen the site) that the 'fast decay' hypothesis is probably too pessimistic. What's happening visibly is that the decks in the bow are 'compressing' down and filling with debris - I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron got the last really good footage of the interior. The stern decks are buckled and rippled like an ocean and the bow is visibly 'rotting' and collapsing inwards from the back . So while we're likely to see some of the more iconic and fragile sections around e.g. the officers' quarters, boat deck, Marconi room, mast, etc look quite different in 10-20 years time, it's hard to imagine there's not still going to be a vast amount still standing and very recognizable; I wouldn't be surprised if the reciprocating engines look exactly the same in a century. My main takeaway from 2021: the site is VAST and the previously published maps, including sonar mosaics, have a lot of issues. The one iconic area that we didn't really get a good look at were the props - lights were not strong enough and it was a dangerous area to get close to. The sub overall has excellent control and agility near the wreck but Cameron was right - you ideally need a second light source down there to get the big panorama shots, which in the stern section I think would be especially mind-blowing. The stern doesn't get enough love imo!

Thanks for the info. I'll be looking for the vids when they get put out. I don't thing the rate of decay will be a linear thing. More like a logarithmic function. It seems to be speeding up. But I believe your right about some of the equipment like the engines and such. They will last a lot longer. Cheers.

 

[Cam Houseman]

Hi all. OceanGate on their YouTube channel and website is going to try to release new videos just as soon as they can be produced from the footage; there are new stills being posted regularly. There is TONS of new footage from the stern and debris field, including areas that our Titanic experts had not seen before. The task of going through it all and comparing it to available footage from earlier expeditions is going to take a long time. Can confirm the bathtub is still there, actually PH Nargeolet confirmed they knew this in Five Deeps Expedition: it was just filled up with debris. Somehow in 2019 this got misreported in the press that it had fallen through the floor. Interestingly it's his opinion (and mine now too, having seen the site) that the 'fast decay' hypothesis is probably too pessimistic. What's happening visibly is that the decks in the bow are 'compressing' down and filling with debris - I wouldn't be surprised if Cameron got the last really good footage of the interior. The stern decks are buckled and rippled like an ocean and the bow is visibly 'rotting' and collapsing inwards from the back . So while we're likely to see some of the more iconic and fragile sections around e.g. the officers' quarters, boat deck, Marconi room, mast, etc look quite different in 10-20 years time, it's hard to imagine there's not still going to be a vast amount still standing and very recognizable; I wouldn't be surprised if the reciprocating engines look exactly the same in a century. My main takeaway from 2021: the site is VAST and the previously published maps, including sonar mosaics, have a lot of issues. The one iconic area that we didn't really get a good look at were the props - lights were not strong enough and it was a dangerous area to get close to. The sub overall has excellent control and agility near the wreck but Cameron was right - you ideally need a second light source down there to get the big panorama shots, which in the stern section I think would be especially mind-blowing. The stern doesn't get enough love imo!

That's awesome! From what I heard, y'all only got to the Bow this year and some debris field, but that's really good news, really glad the Stern was photographed.

I agree with your assessment that Cameron really captured the last good imagery of the interior.