Photos of Wilde

[Donald J A Smith]

Inger - too! - has tired of hats! [As Elaine Stritch would say: "Does anyone still wear a 'hat'?"!] Yet - on this thread or moved - how about an attempt to identify the Titanic 'sailor' in the photograph with Archie Butt and Jack Odell? I have - as hinted - serious reasons for believing some common agreement might be reached - well, almost reached! - on this one: the identity of the crewman Fr Browne photographed.

 

[Bob Godfrey]

Looks like Quartermaster Alfred Olliver, but I wouldn't want to bet money on it!

 

[Inger Sheil]

Nah, Donald - I haven't tired of the thrilling, enthralling world of hats...I'll have to drop a line to Randy to see if he wants to throw his own into this particular discussion! I've got my own range of American Civil War kepis, British merchant marine peaked caps and the odd Aussie Akubra hanging around...and that's just the blokey hats.

I think there have been a couple of noms for the crewman in the photo - who is your money on? (As ever, I tend to hedge my bets, sit on the fence, and go with the most cautious and conservative approach to i.d.ing).

Sounds like that was a great event, Ruth. My father was front row centre at the launch of the Oriana as part of the press corps - I must get the photo scanned and posted one of these days, as he's almost as prominant as the christening bottle.

 

[Pat Winship]

Is there any possibility that Hugh McElroy could have been in that location at that time? The chap in the picture seems to have a similar size and build.

Pat W.

 

[Chris Dohany]

I agree with Bob that the crewman in the Odell/Butt photo could be Olliver, or perhaps Perkis, either way I believe he is a QM. His uniform indicates he holds a different capacity than the other ABs.

 

[Bob Godfrey]

Chris, Perkis is one man I ruled out - he had a physique more in the Homer Simpson tradition! From other photographs it seems that there wasn't much of a dress code for the deck crew - I think what this particular man is wearing was probably a leftover from service in the Royal Navy.

 

[Frank McElroy]

> Pat W. Which picture are we discussing ?

Frank McElroy

 

[Donald J A Smith]

Frank has asked Pat: "Which picture are we discussing?" and Inger has asked me: "who is your money on?". I'll gamble, Inger, that the central, main figure in Fr Browne's photograph taken on A-deck and just beneath the bridge is Thomas Jones.

 

[Pat Winship]

Frank, we're talking about Father Browne's photo of a man, seen from the rear, walking along the starboard side of A-deck, heading aft. He's wearing a uniform overcoat and cap. He's a tall, somewhat heavy-set fellow.

Apologies for the late reply, we've just moved, and I haven't been keeping up as well as usual

Pat W.

 

[Donald J A Smith]

My sincere apologies to you, Pat - and also to Frank - for misunderstanding what would have been the correct answer to his question: "Which picture are we discussing?". The train of thought had just gone into a siding, and it then took me ages afterward to find my place again in order to answer Inger's query regarding my contender for crewman in the other (beneath-the-bridge) photograph also taken on A-deck.

 

[Pat Winship]

S'okay, Donald.

Pat W

 

[Stefan Fordham]

I was just searching around the internet when I found this link on Wilde and it shows a picture of him. http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=11451192

I've never seen this photo before, but can anyone give me more specifics as to when it was taken? It seems to be a military uniform, so maybe it was in the RNR?

Thanks!

[Moderator's note: This message, originally a separate thread, has been moved to this existing thread discussing the same subject. MAB]

 

[MASJWILD]

Hello everyone, my name is John Wilde and i am 65 years old and i am from Liverpool. I am the youngest son of the late George Henry Wilde who was born on the 29th September 1922. I am sure my family is related to Henry Tingle Wilde.
Kind Regards,
John. J.Wilde@ljmu.ac.uk

 

[Sam Brannigan]

As the chief officer on White Star ships was assigned to forecastle duty on departure and arrival, is it fair to say this is Wilde in his summer whites during Olympic's docking in New York upon completion of her maiden voyage?

Library of Congress, Prints and Photographs Division (LC-DIG-ds-10959). GGA Image ID # 10d4ed7b9e

 

[Dan E. Parkes]

As the chief officer on White Star ships was assigned to forecastle duty on departure and arrival, is it fair to say this is Wilde in his summer whites during Olympic's docking in New York upon completion of her maiden voyage?

A great find, Sam. And if only!.... However, Joseph Evans was the first chief officer aboard the Olympic on her maiden voyage. Henry Wilde took over the role from the 6th July 1911. So if that is indeed the chief officer, it would be Evans.