Hi Bill, good to hear from you. Say hello to Mrs. De Sena, too. Regarding the "panic," David, I recall that Officer Lowe had to fire his gun, and Lightoller, threatened the crowd --so I'm thinking that there may have been some sort of panic much earlier. On the other hand, I've heard that the panic really didn't break out until people realized that all of the boats were gone. Given that Collapsible D left around 2:00 a.m., it seems that your statement is quite correct. Again, thanks for the interesting article. Terri, I haven't posted any research yet, except that various conversations have much information about PTSD and Titanic victims --there were something like ten suicides, (that we know of so far), and many instances of wierd or unusual behavior. Usually, the suicides were triggered by some other events, such as a spouse or child's death, financial failures, etc. The suicides were often many, many years after the disaster. Check out some of the conversations.