Two questions re: Marconi Room & Bridge on Titanic

[peterpeak362]

Captain Smith wasn't inebriated in any way. Eleanor Widener, who hosted the dinner party in the á la carte restaurant. noted:

Charles Emil Henry Stengel also recalled:


First officer Murdoch pressed the alarm bell and turned the lever of the vertical watertight doors seconds before the iceberg hit. The closing of the vertical watertight doors are recalled by various survivors, this includes:
Leading fireman Frederick William Barrett (1883-1931)
Fireman George William Beauchamp (1888-1965)
Trimmer Thomas Patrick Dillon (1879-1939)
Greaser Frederick William Scott (1884-1915)
And beyond that, carpenter John Maxwell informed captain Smith that the tarpaulin of the number one cargo hatch was ballooning up as well that the ship made water in the forepeak tank.

The pumps had drains throughout most of the compartments of the Titanic and it wasn't purely focused on boiler room number 6 alone. Coal bunker W which is the likely coal bunker in question you refer to also was emptied the days before, which caused a slight list of 2.5 degrees to port earlier during the voyage. And to start a fire you need three essential things:
1 fuel
2 oxygen
3 heat
And cold water would take two of those away.

Coal self ignites and contains sulfur upon immolation...salt water is in essence an accelerant when introduced to the coal's combustion....the 45 ksi steel did not flower outward in great mouths because of water weight Noone verified the doors were closed initially whatsoever...it was repeated by bridge personnel that Murdock was near the switches...the pumps certainly were in reverse to fill over the tank tops and get the seawater to that bunker 6 wall, which ran watertight up to the boat deck and the bridge. Boule

 

[Thomas Krom]

Coal self ignites and contains sulfur upon immolation...salt water is in essence an accelerant when introduced to the coal's combustion....the 45 ksi steel did not flower outward in great mouths because of water weight

You clearly never had physics classes. A fire can't break out when there is no oxygen or heat.

Noone verified the doors were closed initially whatsoever..

Tell that to leading fireman Frederick Barrett then, who had to escape together with second engineer John Hesketh out of boiler room number 6 into boiler room number 5 with the door closing behind them seconds after he saw the iceberg damage two feet above the stokehold plates.

it was repeated by bridge personnel that Murdock was near the switches..

Yes, by quartermaster Alfred John Olliver who entered the navigating bridge of the Titanic around that time.

the pumps certainly were in reverse to fill over the tank tops and get the seawater to that bunker 6 wall, which ran watertight up to the boat deck and the bridge.

That's absurd, the bilge and ballast pumps and their respective drains didn't had that feature either.

 

[peterpeak362]

You clearly never had physics classes. A fire can't break out when there is no oxygen or heat.

Tell that to leading fireman Frederick Barrett then, who had to escape together with second engineer John Hesketh out of boiler room number 6 into boiler room number 5 with the door closing behind them seconds after he saw the iceberg damage two feet above the stokehold plates.

Yes, by quartermaster Alfred John Olliver who entered the navigating bridge of the Titanic around that time.

That's absurd, the bilge and ballast pumps and their respective drains didn't had that feature either.

Who said there wasn't oxygen in the bunkers? The doors closed as the floats engaged, without need of the switches; but the water was already in the compartments in front of the bunker 6 wall; and a pump has, by definition, an influent and an effluent. You can pump water in or out, which they certainly did the former to bring enough against the heat-deformed bunker 6 wall...
Are you a Noble? And if so, where do you tie your camel?

 

[Arun Vajpey]

Smith was a bit inebriated, but not surprised when the carpenter gave him the news...after all, the doors were never closed until the floats closed them, and the pumps were reversed to get that water at the bunker 6 wall...took 2 hrs and change; saltwater, after all is like gasoline when introduced to burning coal

What absolute nonsense! Captain Smith was totally sober; not just Mrs Widener (as Thomas points out above) but Steward Thomas Whiteley, who claimed to have waited at the Widener Party table, said that Smith smoked two cigars and ate his meal but never touched a drop of wine. Whiteley himself did have a tendency to make-up exaggerated stories and if Smith had drunk any alcohol would have said so vociferously. He didn't.

BR #6 flooded very quickly while the boilers were still at almost maximum heat but there was absolutely no explosion or anything similar. So, that theory of exploding boilers has no basis whatsoever.

 

[peterpeak362]

What absolute nonsense! Captain Smith was totally sober; not just Mrs Widener (as Thomas points out above) but Steward Thomas Whiteley, who claimed to have waited at the Widener Party table, said that Smith smoked two cigars and ate his meal but never touched a drop of wine. Whiteley himself did have a tendency to make-up exaggerated stories and if Smith had drunk any alcohol would have said so vociferously. He didn't.

BR #6 flooded very quickly while the boilers were still at almost maximum heat but there was absolutely no explosion or anything similar. So, that theory of exploding boilers has no basis whatsoever.

You seem vociferous about a disputed account,

Was the captain of the Titanic drunk on the night the ship struck an iceberg? Letter written by survivor claims skipper was in saloon bar before liner sank

History books record that the white-whiskered skipper (pictured) was woken in his cabin when the ship struck the iceberg and bravely decided to go down with his ship.

www.dailymail.co.uk

all the while ignoring the fire in coal bunker 6, which warped the wall with the seawater on the other side of it.

 

[Steven Christian]

You seem vociferous about a disputed account,

Was the captain of the Titanic drunk on the night the ship struck an iceberg? Letter written by survivor claims skipper was in saloon bar before liner sank

History books record that the white-whiskered skipper (pictured) was woken in his cabin when the ship struck the iceberg and bravely decided to go down with his ship.

www.dailymail.co.uk

all the while ignoring the fire in coal bunker 6, which warped the wall with the seawater on the other side of it.

Ignored? The crew spent four days shoveling the coal out and had it out by Saturday the day before the collision. They dealt with it like always, as coal fires were not uncommon on ships. I wouldn't call that ignoring it.