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Frederick Fleet

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Frederick Fleet
Frederick Fleet

Mr Frederick Fleet (Lookout) was born in Liverpool, Lancashire, England on 15 October 1887 and was the illegitimate child of Alice Fleet (b. 29 June 1870).

His mother, Alice Fleet, was born in Liverpool, the daughter of dock labourer Richard Fleet and his wife Ann, née Walkington and came from a large family. By the time of the 1881 census, she was a resident of 99 Hodder Street in Everton.

The exact timeline of events is not clear but Frederick was abandoned by his mother and whilst it is uncertain whether he ever had contact with both his maternal grandparents they both died in the 1890s.

Following the desertion of her son, his mother Alice arrived in the USA on 20 October 1890 aboard the Cephalonia, described as an unmarried millhand. She was married in Chicopee, Hampden, Massachusetts on 5 October 1892 to William Wellstood Burnett (1873-1954), a spectacle maker also from Liverpool. They made their home in Springfield, Massachusetts and welcomed their only child, a daughter named Elizabeth on 29 May 1893. The family later relocated to El Paso, Texas sometime prior to 1910 where William worked as a house painter. She and her husband later lived with their daughter in Albuquerque, New Mexico and Alice died there on 16 April 1953.

His half-sister Elizabeth was married to Stephen Parker and had a son named Bernard Stephen (1916-1994). She was later remarried to George E. Sells (1890-1931), a laundry manager originally from New York and they made their home in Albuquerque. Elizabeth died in 1973.  

Frederick Fleet Frederick was raised by a succession of foster families and distant relatives via orphanages and Dr Banardo Homes. He first appears on the 1891 census living at 272 Parliament Street in Toxteth Park, Liverpool, the home of Mrs Annie Shaw, a hospital matron. At the age of 12 he was sent to a training ship and appeared on the 1901 census with scores of similarly aged boys under the care of Captain Frederick Charles Gilbert Longdon, a seafarer at Llandegfan in Anglesey, Wales where Fleet was described as "learning a sea life." In 1903 he went to sea as a deck boy, working his way up to Able Seaman. By 1908 he was working aboard Oceanic, a ship he served aboard for four years.

At the time of the collision, Fleet was on duty in the crow's nest with Reginald Lee, having begun his watch at 10 pm. They had relieved lookouts Archie Jewell and George Symons who advised them to keep a "sharp lookout for small ice."

Just after seven bells, Fleet saw a black mass ahead, immediately struck three bells and telephoned the bridge. He reported, "Iceberg right ahead," and received the reply, "Thank you." While still on the telephone, the ship started swinging to port. The lookouts saw the starboard side of the ship scrape alongside the iceberg and saw ice falling on the decks. They had thought that it had been either a close shave or a near miss. The lookouts remained in the crow's nest until relieved about 20 minutes later.

Fleet then made his way to the Boat Deck where Second Officer Charles Lightoller put him to help Quarter-Master Robert Hichen load and launch lifeboat 6, the first boat to be launched from the port side. After loading some 28 women and children, the boat was lowered into the water. As it was being lowered, Lightoller realised that it was undermanned and called for an experienced seaman. Major Arthur Peuchen volunteered as he had experience as a yachtsman. Lightoller told him "If you are sailor enough to get out there - then go down"; and he proved he was by going down the fall to the boat. In the morning, Lifeboat 6 was picked up by the Carpathia.

Fleet was detained for questioning at both the American and British Inquiries into the sinking. From June 1912 he served briefly as Seaman on the White Star liner Olympic but found that White Star looked at the surviving officers and crew as embarrassing reminders of the recent disaster and he left the company in August 1912. For the next 24 years, Fleet sailed with Union-Castle and various other companies, finishing with the sea in 1936. Ashore, he worked for Harland and Wolff as a shipbuilder and later was the shore Master-at-Arms for Union-Castle Mail Steamship Co.

He was married in 1917 to Eva Ernestine Le Gros (b. 1891), born in St Helier, Jersey and a former resident of St Peter's Port, Guernsey, both in the Channel Islands. The couple had a daughter named Dorothy Frederica Ernestine on 24 November 1918.

Frederick Fleet

In the last years of his life Fleet worked as a part-time street vendor for the Echo newspaper with a pitch on Pound Tree Road, Southampton and he and his wife lived with his brother-in-law Philip Joseph Le Gros (1894-1972). He maintained contact with the Titanic Historical Society and wrote to them often.

On 28 December 1964 Fleet lost his wife. Her brother, with whom the couple lived, then evicted Frederick and in a state of despondency he committed suicide two weeks later, his body being discovered on 10 January 1965. He was buried in an unmarked pauper's grave at Hollybrook Cemetery, Southampton. In 1993 a headstone was erected through donations by The Titanic Historical Society.

His daughter Dorothy was married in 1939 to Michael Patrick Shanley (1909-1972) and had two known children. She died in Southampton in early 1979.

References and Sources

Daily Sketch 25 April 1912
Southern Evening Echo, 11 January 1965, Titanic survivor found hanged

Research Articles

Captain Laurence V. Wade Titanica! (2003) Lookouts : The Human Perspective
The role of the lookouts on the Titanic from the eye of an experienced seaman.
Richard Krebes Titanica! (2009) Defending Fleet and Lee
Film depicted them as irresponsible youths who let their attention wander...
The tragic stories of Titanic survivors who died prematurely...

Newspaper Articles

Titanic Timeline (14 April 1912) Frederick Fleet sights an Iceberg
New York Times (21 April 1912) ALARM FROM LOOKOUT IGNORED, SAILOR SAYS
Officer on Titanic's Bridge Had Warning of the Iceberg from the Crow's Nest.
The New York Times (21 April 1912) SEALING THE LIPS OF TITANIC'S CREW
Washington Times (24 April 1912) FREDERICK FLEET / MAJOR ARTHUR PEUCHEN
Southampton Echo (11 January 1965) TITANIC SURVIVOR FOUND HANGED

Images

Hollybrook Cemetery, Lordshill, Southampton
Southern Evening Echo (1965) Fred Fleet in the 1960s

Documents and Certificates

Frederick Fleet

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  1. Steven Christian

    Steven Christian

    I believe PTSD exists. Like I said the problem is that it has been over applied to where it has diluted the meaning for the legitimate cases. As for boat #6 I would need to research the people who were on it as I don't know. The one story I have always remembered was the survivor who lived next to the baseball field (I think it was Thayer) that when he heard the crowd cheer it always brought him back to the night of Titanic.
  2. Arun Vajpey

    Arun Vajpey

    Absolutely right on both counts. The issue is that being a relatively new diagnosis (in Mental Health terms), the boundaries are a bit hazy at this stage and likely over-applied. During my GP days, I worked with the Mental Health team often in cases suspected to have PTSD. In most cases, those involved experiences in the Gulf War, Afghanistan etc, especially the latter for Brits. Depression, even the occasional suicidal intent associated with things like bereavement, estrangement, financial setbacks etc were not considered as PTSD. Based on that, IMO Frederick Fleet did not suffer from PTSD and his suicide 53 years after the disaster were almost certainly due to more personal issues - past and (then) present. He had quite a disturbed childhood and while... Read full post
  3. Steven Christian

    Steven Christian

    Absolutely right on both counts. The issue is that being a relatively new diagnosis (in Mental Health terms), the boundaries are a bit hazy at this stage and likely over-applied. During my GP days, I worked with the Mental Health team often in cases suspected to have PTSD. In most cases, those involved experiences in the Gulf War, Afghanistan etc, especially the latter for Brits. Depression, even the occasional suicidal intent associated with things like bereavement, estrangement, financial setbacks etc were not considered as PTSD. Based on that, IMO Frederick Fleet did not suffer from PTSD and his suicide 53 years after the disaster were almost certainly due to more personal issues - past and (then) present. He had quite a disturbed childhood and while details are limited, being an illegitimate son of an unwed mother who abandoned him and ran away to America with a boyfriend would have left a major scar. Added... Read full post
  4. Arun Vajpey

    Arun Vajpey

    True. The uncomfortable truth is that something like war brings out the best in most people. And there is a Titanic related example, but as it may ruffle a few feathers I hasten to add that it is just my opinion. Period. No matter how others feel, I will always believe that during the time he was a Second Officer on board the Titanic, Charles Lightoller was a very self-indulgent individual to whom looking after Number One was a top priority. When the Titanic struck the iceberg and started to sink, things happened too unexpectedly and too fast for someone like Lightoller to sit back and take stock of the situation, including his own... Read full post
  5. FredFleet_R&D

    FredFleet_R&D

    Does anyone have the names of Frederick Fleet (RMS Titanic lookout) grandchildren? Frederick's daughter Dorothy Shanley living in Southampton UK, was known to have two children, who should still be alive today. I have some important information I would like to discuss with them.
  6. Arun Vajpey

    Arun Vajpey

    Have you tried the genealogy sites? They usually give the names of family members down to contemporary times, unless there is a privacy block.
  7. Jason D. Tiller

    Jason D. Tiller

    A few did. Arthur Peuchen, Robert Hichens and Mary Eloise Smith all refer to it. Peuchen during his testimony on Day 4 at the U.S. Inquiry: 5546. From your position in the boat, did you face it? - I was facing it at this time. I was rowing this way ( indicating), and afterwards I changed to the other way. We heard a sort of a call for help after this whistle I described a few minutes ago. This was the officer calling us back. We heard a sort of a rumbling sound and the lights were still on at the rumbling sound, as far as my memory serves me; then a sort of an explosion, then another. It seemed to... Read full post
  8. FredFleet_R&D

    FredFleet_R&D

    Thanks Arun, we haven't yet but will look into it.
  9. Kerry Clare

    Kerry Clare

    You can find what you are looking for here.
  10. RyanJF

    RyanJF

    Washing line, Hampshire Constabulary still have it in their collection. Rather morbid if you ask me, the lead officer kept it til his death in 2019 I believe, which is when it was put into the collection.
  11. X----- X-------

    X----- X-------

    There's a few questions in the way of answers missng from my corner. I shall return later to provide some of those answers. RyanF -- I didn't know the lead officer, who was then a junior in 1962 had died in 2019. I've got quite a story to tell over that encounter I had with him in the summer of 1997 when he and his beloved were walking around the country lanes of my adopted village on the edge of the New Forest. Keep a watchful Ryan as I am sure you along with Dr Paul Lee will be just as fascanited.
  12. Carolyn Winkelmann

    Carolyn Winkelmann

    What a sad story. I just said a prayer for his soul. I’m not saying he should have felt any responsibility for what happened, but if it was really his first voyage as a lookout, how could he have not been traumatized! It hurts my heart to think of a 75 year old man losing his wife, then being evicted, then hanging himself, then ending up in a pauper’s grave. And being an orphan, and starting his working life at 12. Geez!

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Titanic Crew Summary

Name: Mr Frederick Fleet
Age: 24 years 6 months (Male)
Nationality: English
Last Residence: at 9 Norman Road Southampton, Hampshire, England
Occupation: Lookout
Last Ship: Oceanic
Embarked: Belfast
Rescued (boat 6)  
Disembarked Carpathia: New York City on Thursday 18th April 1912
Cause of Death:

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