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Alfred Albert White

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Alfred Albert White
Alfred Albert White

Mr Alfred Albert White was born at 17 Northam Street in Southampton, Hampshire on 25 March 1880 1 and baptised in St Mary's Parish Church on 16 May that year.

He was the eldest child of Alfred Samuel White (1852-1902), a master French polisher, and Charlotte Harriet Light (1856-1938), both Southampton natives who were married in 1879.

One of seven children, White’s siblings were: Charlotte Annie (b. 1881), Emily Harriett (b. 1884), Edwin (b. 1887), Henry James (b. 1889), Kate Ellen (b. 1892) and Margaret Louisa (b. 1893).

On the 1881 census, the family were listed as living at 13 York Square, Southampton and on the 1891 census as residents of 33 Orchard Lane, Southampton.

When Alfred first went to sea is not certain but ships he is known to have served aboard include the Kildonan Castle, Teutonic and Oceanic. Seaman records describe him as standing at 5’ 8¼” and with brown hair, blue eyes and a fair complexion, sporting tattoos on both arms and his chest. 

Alfred was married in St James’ Church, Southampton on 29 September 1902 to Florence Ada Watson, née Powell (b. 7 August 1876 in Southampton), a young widow. Florence’s first marriage was to seaman Frederick William Watson (b. 1876), whom she married in January 1901; Watson drowned whilst swimming off the coast of Bombay, India in March 1902. The couple had no children. 

Alfred and Florence would have six daughters and one son: Charlotte Florence Edith (1903-1985, later Mrs Matthew Mark Jenkins), Florence (1906-1906), Florence Ellen (1907-1986, later Mrs Frank Horace Sanger), Doris Irene (1911-2002, later Mrs James George Lister), Alfred Edward Henry (1913-2005), Maud Emily (1914-2015, later Mrs William Joseph Summers) and Mildred Eveline (1918-2002, later Mrs Arthur Thomas Hurst).

The family appeared on the 1911 census residing at 3 Southampton Place, Southampton and White was described as a ship's fireman. 

When he signed on to the Titanic on 6 April 1912, White gave his address as 3 Southampton Place, Southampton. He had transferred from the Oceanic and as a greaser, he received monthly wages of £6, 10s.

Shortly after the collision, steward James Johnstone encountered White in the first-class dining saloon, the latter on an errand to fetch hot water. Johnstone asked White to go below and check the situation; White complied, returning shortly after and informing him that that situation appeared to be serious.

White remained on the ship until late in the proceedings and was rescued in lifeboat 4 after being pulled from the water.

"I sliped (sic) down some loose boat falls an droped (sic) into the water. There was a boat not far away which later picked me up. There were five firemen in her as crew, 40 women and 16 children. There was no officer. During the six hours we were afloat we were near what we boys called the millionaires' boat...", The New York Call, 20 April, 1912

Shortly after the sinking, the Newton Abbot Western Guardian reported:

White, Alfred, one of the Titanic's crew who is reported to be among the survivors, resided at Shaldon before going to Southampton and at the last General Election made himself prominent at the Liberal meeting by asking questions with regard to the Merchant Shipping Act.'

White was not required to provide evidence to either the American or British inquiries into the disaster.

Following the Titanic disaster, Alfred returned to sea and later survived another shipwreck, the sinking of SS Aragon on 30 December 1917; Aragon, a heavily-laden troopship, was torpedoed off the coast of Alexandria, Egypt, resulting in the deaths of over 600 people from more than 2700 aboard. 

By 1921 Alfred and his family were living at 16 Grove Street, Southampton and he was then described as a publican. 

Alfred White, who suffered from a heart ailment in his last years, died suddenly whilst queuing in the City and Midland Bank, Southampton on 7 January 1922.2 

He was buried in the Old Common Cemetery, Southampton on 12 January.

Mr. Alfred Albert White, aged 44. a beer retailer, of 16. Grove Street, Chapel, entered the premises, asked for £2 worth of coppers, and became suddenly ill.

Other customers in the bank rushed to his assistance, but in a minute or two death ensued. - Hampshire Independent, 13 January 1922


WHITE-January 6th (sic), at Grove Inn, Grove Street, Alf, the dearly loved husband of Florence White, aged 41. Funeral at 1.30 Thursday, to Southampton Cemetery.

Alfred’s widow Florence never remarried and remained in Southampton until she died in 1965.

She and Alfred are buried together.

Alfred’s daughter Mildred later married Arthur Thomas Hurst (1913-2001), son of Titanic survivor Walter Hurst. His last surviving child, Maud, died in Southampton on 4 July 2015 aged 101.

Notes

  1. Date as per birth record; sometimes cited as 25 January 1880. He also frequently gave his year of birth as 1876.
  2. Disparity over actual death date: his death took place 7 January 1922 (corroborated by his death certificate). His death notice gives the date as the 6th.

References and Sources

Newton Abbot Western Guardian
Daily Echo, 10 January 1922 (Death notice)

Research Articles

Titanica! (2017) Shipwrecked again!
Titanic passengers and crew that experienced shipwrecks either before or after the Titanic disaster.
The tragic stories of Titanic survivors who died prematurely...

Newspaper Articles

Teignmouth Post (26 April 1912) Shaldon And The Disaster
Hampshire Advertiser (14 January 1922) Tragic Death In A Bank

Documents and Certificates

Agreement and Account of Crew, National Archives, London; BT100/259
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  1. JILL K. KIRBY

    Re: September 27th 2006 Please note that I now have all of the relevant data on Alfred White His birth name is Alfred Albert White As follows: Alfred Albert White was born on March 25th 1880 at 17 Northam Street Southampton, he was the eldest of 7 children. His parents were Alfred Samuel White who was a french polisher and his mother was Charlotte Harriet Light. My Grandmother who was his sister was born on 11th May 1892 her name Kate Ellen White. I have him listed in all of the census records from 1881, 1891 and 1901. In 1891 he was living at 33 Orchard Lane, Southampton with his parents (my father William Harry Kirby who was his nephew was born at the same address on September 5th 1911). In the 1901 census Alfred's family were living still at 33 Orchard Lane, however Alfred was not there; I found the only Alfred matching his identity living as a boarder in Birmingham, Warwickshire aged 20 years and having been born in Southampton. ... Read full post
  2. Andrew J. Kahl

    I read somewhere online that he survived by going down with the ship on the fourth funnel and blacked out, or something like that. On the web site it says it got this info from some of his old letters! Hope this helps and I'll retry to find this site.
  3. karen smith

    Alfred White is my partners great grandfather and it is true that he went up through a dummy tunnel and was rescued, I know little else but this is a true fact. He came originally from Shaldon.
  4. Arun Vajpey

    I personally found Alfred White's "climbing up the 4th funnel" story to be a huge yarn. If, as Pellegrino... Read full post
  5. Cam Houseman

    I personally found Alfred White's "climbing up the 4th funnel" story to be a huge yarn. If, as Pellegrino describes, it happened just before the Titanic broke apart, then the stern would have been at an angle of 11 to 12 degrees to the sea surface. By that you can imagine the angle the funnel itself was at and the near-impossibility of climbing the ladder within it. Even if White somehow accomplished it, the actual break-up and the ripping away of the funnel from its moorings would have been so catastrophic that it would have thrown him around like a rag doll and broke just about every bone in his body and caused multiple lacerations. He would have died several times over right then. It is more likely that he might have slid down some loose falls into the water around 02:00 am and was pulled on board a lifeboat, as per his own statement on 20th April 1912 to the New York Call. As to the boat in which he was... Read full post
  6. Ioannis Georgiou

    White mentioned how two who were picked up from the sea died in the boat which directly points to boat No. 4.
  7. Cam Houseman

    oh ok, thanks Ioannis, Arun
  8. Kyojiro

    In the film Saving the Titanic, he is told to go up there to look down on the ship and report back what he saw. He never made it back down, as the ship collapsed when he reached the top. He was one of the three surviving characters of that film, along with Paddy Dillon, who was rather drunk and that managed to keep him alive in the water long enough to be rescued by a lifeboat, and Fred Barret, who somehow made it to a lifeboat in the nick of time... Read full post
  9. Arun Vajpey

    I know that you are talking about a TV mini-series and a rather poorly made one at that, but there are a couple of things that I wanted to mention from your post. Fred Barret, who somehow made it to a lifeboat in the... Read full post
  10. Mark Baber

    What's shown in a movie or TV program is proof of nothing.

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Titanic Crew Summary

Name: Mr Alfred Albert White
Age: 32 years 2 months and 21 days (Male)
Nationality: English
Marital Status: Married
Last Residence: at 3 Southampton Place Southampton, Hampshire, England
Occupation: Greaser
Last Ship: Oceanic
Embarked: Southampton on Saturday 6th April 1912
Rescued (boat 4)  
Disembarked Carpathia: New York City on Thursday 18th April 1912
Died: Saturday 7th January 1922 aged 41 years
Buried: Old Cemetery, Southampton Common, Southampton, Hampshire, England on Thursday 12th January 1922

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