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George Alexander Lucien Rheims

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George Alexander Lucien Rheims was born on 6 January 1879 in New York City, New York, the son of Leon Rheims and Jeanette Kearns. His father was a French native who came to the United States in the late 1850s, while his mother was a New York native, born to French immigrant parents, they were married on 25 October 1867 in Brooklyn.1

On 1 June 1880, George’s parents and siblings: Rosalie (later Comtesse de Roussy de Sales), Gaston, Charles, Leon Jr., and Henry lived at 4 E. 30th Street in New York City. His father owned a millinery goods business and was quite wealthy, the family employed eight female servants.2  George’s family often returned to France, and he lived there between 1883 and 1887.3

In January 1892, the family millinery import business suffered a tremendous loss when a fire occurred at numbers 5 through 9 in Union Square. Leon Rheims had between $200,000 and $250,000 in goods that were destroyed.4  The next month, an auction of the remaining stock, which included ostrich feathers, trimmings, plushes, and Florentine silks, was held.5

Afterwards, George’s parents returned to Paris, although the Rheims millinery business continued, with stores in Paris, Boston, and New York City.6 George’s father died in Paris on 31 January 1894, leaving an estate valued between $300,000 to $400,000 to his wife, with the five children to receive it after her death.7 George returned to France and lived there for much of the time afterwards, returning briefly to the United States in 1900 and 1905-1906.8

Passenger records list George Rheims arriving in the United States on numerous occasions, probably visiting family members and working at the family business: On 7 April 1906, George arrived in New York City after sailing on 31 March 1906 from Le Havre aboard the S. S. La Lorraine. He was working as a merchant and was “on a visit to the States.”9 On 5 October 1907, George and his brother Gaston Richard Rheims arrived aboard La Provence that had sailed from Le Havre on 28 September 1907.10 On 2 February 1910, George arrived in New York City on the Kaiser Wilhelm Der Grosse. He was listed as an importer.11  On 26 February 1911, he returned from Cherbourg, France aboard the Amerika.12 On 21 October 1911, George and a brother (whose name is illegible) arrived on La Provence from Havre.13

Marie Rheims
Marie Rheims in 1917

George was married in late 1911 or early 1912 to Marie Lamoine Loring. Marie was born on 21 September 1880 in Chicago, Illinois, daughter of Francis L. Loring and Williamana Holland.14 Her parents reportedly refused to accept Rheims.15

George was living at 42 Rue de Paradis in Paris at the time he boarded the Titanic at Cherbourg with his brother in law, Joseph Holland Loring, on the voyage to New York City.16  He paid £39 12s for ticket 17604.17  The two men had adjoining staterooms on B deck.18 On the night of April 15th, George and Joseph were in the smoking room “trying to figure out the speed of the boat to see what the run would be the next day. Then the steward, whom I think they called the commodore steward, because I think he is the oldest steward, came up to us and said we might figure on a bigger run. We said, ‘Why?’ He answered, ‘Because we are making faster speed than we were yesterday.’ My brother-in-law said, ‘What do you know about it?’ He said, ‘I got it from the engine room.’ My brother-in-law said, ‘That don’t mean anything.’ He said, ‘Gentlemen, come out and see for yourself.” We went out in the passage hallway right outside of the smoking room and we stood there, and he said, ‘You notice that the vibration of the boat is much greater tonight than it has ever been.’ And we did notice the vibration, which was very strong that night, and my brother-in-law, whose stateroom was right underneath the passage, said, ‘I never noticed this vibration before; we are evidently making very good speed.”

After the collision with the iceberg, George said “no one seemed to know for twenty minutes after the boat struck that anything had happened. Many of the passengers stood round for an hour with their life belts on, he said, and saw people getting into the boats.”19  Rheims ran down to his stateroom and grabbed a picture of his wife from a frame. When he returned to deck, he and Loring stripped off their heavy clothing and prepared to enter the water towards the bow. Loring hesitated, considering heading to the stern.20  Rheims, in a letter he wrote to his wife afterwards, claimed that he saw an officer commit suicide after announcing, “Gentlemen, each man for himself. Good-bye.”21 In the pandemonium, as the Titanic’s bow dipped under, Rheims and Loring were separated and Rheims ended up near Collapsible Boat A.22 He later said that he shook hands with his brother-in-law, who would not jump, and leapt over the side of the boat. He swam for a quarter of an hour and reached a boat, with 18 occupants, half under water. The people were in water up to their knees. Seven of them, he said, died during the night.”23  Before crawling into the boat, Rheims had had to untangle himself from some deck chairs and a mass of rope. Another survivor in Collapsible Boat A would say that they saw Rheims standing in the boat in his underwear. Rheims later said he had to take charge of the boat, and that the occupants of Collapsible Boat A had to prevent additional people from climbing aboard. The 20 or so survivors aboard used pieces of boards to paddle away from the mass of people struggling in the water.24 On the initial survivor lists, telegraphed to shore, he was listed as “Mrs. George Rheims.”25

George’s wife Marie was pregnant at the time of the disaster, and subsequently gave birth to their son George Loring Rheims on 29 July 1912 in Paris.26

In early 1913, George was one of many passengers who filed claims with the United States Commissioner Gilchrist. George reported that he “was on a submerged, defective collapsible lifeboat for hours, he says, and for shock and anguish, he demands $10,700; for baggage, $6418.”27 Among the items he claimed he lost were a turquoise scarf pin, a fur coat, eight suits of clothes, a fur rug, an umbrella, and 48 shirts.28 George returned to live in France afterward. He, wife Maria, and son Loring returned to New York City on 16 October 1914 aboard the Mauretania.29 On 1 October 1901, George and Marie arrived in New York City from Liverpool, England aboard the St. Paul.30

George frequently traveled abroad for business, with passport applications existing for 1914, 1915, 1917, 1918, and 1920. These provide biographical information, as well as physical descriptions (and in some cases blurry photographs (e.g., 1915 and 1920). As an example, when he applied for a passport in December 1915 he reported that he was 5 ft 11 inches tall, had a broad forehead, brown eyes, a straight nose, a medium mouth, a round chin, very dark brown hair (balding by 1920), a ruddy complexion, and a round face. He noted that he was employed by the Leon Rheims Company, Importers, at 417 5th Avenue in New York City and that he and his wife were traveling to France and England for the importing business.

By June 1917, the company was renamed George Rheims & Cie. and George was living in Paris, occasionally visiting England on business.31 He left the United States again in March 1918, arriving in France on 5 April 1918.32 In November 1918, he applied for a temporary permit to visit Switzerland while residing in France.33 George arrived on 1 January 1919 aboard the S. S. Espagne, leaving Bordeau, France on 21 December 1918.34

In November 1930, George attended a luncheon at the Olympic Hotel in Seattle.35 His wife attended a luncheon in Seattle in January 1931.36 In 1936, the couple lived in Pasadena, California.37 They frequently traveled back and forth between Pasadena and Seattle.38

As war began on the European continent, George, Maria, and their son George returned to the United States from Lisbon, Portugal on 18 October 1940 aboard the Exeter.39

During World War II, George and Marie’s son George enlisted at Fort Dix, New Jersey on 14 March 1942. He was single at the time and reported that he had attended college for four years.40 He served as a Captain in the Headquarters of the 2nd Infantry Division during the war. After his death on 11 June 1964, he would be buried in Arlington National Cemetery in Washington, D.C.41

George was required to register for the draft in World War II in 1942. At that time he was retired and was living in the Exeter Hotel in Seattle, Washington.42  In 1945, his sister, “Countess J. de Roussy de Sales,” visited Seattle and stayed with George and his wife.  She had fled France during the war as a refugee and was known for her work with the French Red Cross.43 The following year saw a visit from the couple’s son George, his French wife Anne, and their son, George III.44 George’s sister Lily died in October 1948.45

In February 1950, George and Marie sold the Exeter Hotel and moved to Biarritz, France. Marie died there on 8 August 1954. She left behind an estate valued at over $100,000.46

George Rheims Death Certtificate 1963

George was later married to Dolores Maria Josefa Lolita Candela in Biarritz. He died there on 1 March 1963 from myocardial infarction with pulmonary oedemia. He was buried in plot #76-1892 in the Passy’s Cemetery in Paris. He left his Seattle properties, valued at over $400,000 to his wife and grandson George Loring Rheims, with smaller bequests to his nephew Richard de Roussy de Sales and three Seattle friends.47

 

Notes

1 The Courts. New York Herald-Tribune, page 4, column 5.
2 Leon Rheims household, 1880 US census, New York City, New York, ED 281, page 1, dwelling 2, family 2; NARA microfilm T9, roll 880.
3 U.S. Passport Applications 1795-1925, record for George Lucien Rheims, 1920, online at Ancestry.com.
4 A Half-Million Fire. Grand Forks Herald, page 1, column 4.
5 Wm. Topping & Co. Auction Notice, New York Herald, 25 February 1892, page 14, column 4.
6 Leon Rheims Importer advertisement, New York Herald-Tribune, 30 January 1897, page 27, column 4.
7 The Courts. New York Herald-Tribune, page 4, column 5.
8 U.S. Passport Applications 1795-1925, record for George Lucien Rheims, 1920, online at Ancestry.com.
9 George Rheims entry, New York Passenger Lists 1820-1907, La Lorraine 7 April 1906, online at Ancestry.com.
10 George Rheims entry, New York Passenger Lists 1820-1907, La Provence 5 October 1907, online at Ancestry.com.
11 George Rheims entry, New York Passenger Lists 1820-1907, Kaiser Wilhelm Der Grosse 2 February 1910, online at Ancestry.com.
12 George L. Rheims entry, Amerika 26 February 1911, online at www.ellisisland.org.
13 George Rheims entry, New York Passenger Lists 1820-1907, La Provence 21 October 1911, online at Ancestry.com.
14 Joseph Holland Loring Certificate of Birth, Illinois Cook County Birth Certificates, online at Familysearch.org.
15 Farewell, Titanic: Her Final Legacy, by Charles Pellegrino.
16 "Titanic" disaster. Report of the Committee on Commerce, United States Senate, pursuant to S.Res. 283, directing the Committee on Commerce to investigate the causes leading to the wreck of the White Star liner "Titanic" together with speeches thereon by Senator William Alden Smith of Michigan and Senator Isidor Rayner of Maryland, Serial Set Vol. No. 6127, Senate Report 806, page 46.
17 Titanic, Triumph and Tragedy. By John P. Eaton and Charles A. Haas.
18 Farewell Titanic: Her Final Legacy, by Charles Pellegrino.
19 Scenes of Distress Told by Those Who Know, Patriot, 19 April 1912, page 1, columns 2-3.
20 Farewell, Titanic: Her Final Legacy, by Charles Pellegrino.
21 The Night Lives On: The Untold Stories and Secrets Behing the Sinking of the Titanic. By Walter Lord.
22 Farewell, Titanic: Her Final Legacy, by Charles Pellegrino.
23 Scenes of Distress Told by Those Who Know, Patriot, 19 April 1912, page 1, columns 2-3.
24 Farewell Titanic: Her Final Legacy, by Charles Pellegrino.
25 868 Survivors are on the Carpathia, Evening Chronicle (Marshall, Michigan), 17 April 1912, page 1, column 4.
26 U.S. Passport Applications 1795-1925, record for George Lucien Rheims, 1914, online at Ancestry.com; U.S. Passport Applications 1795-1925, record for Marie Loring Rheims, 1918, online at Ancestry.com. The application contains a photograph of Marie.
27 Titanic Horrors Retold, Springfield Daily News, page 5, columns 1-2.
28See  http://www.encyclopedia-titanica.org/george-rheims-claim.html
29 George Rheims entry, New York Passenger Lists 1820-1907, Mauretania 16 October 1914, online at Ancestry.com.
30 George Rheims entry, New York Passenger Lists 1820-1907,St. Paul 1 October 1915, online at Ancestry.com.
31 U.S. Passport Applications 1795-1925, record for George Rheims, 1917, online at Ancestry.com.
32 U.S. Passport Applications 1795-1925, record for George Lucien Rheims, 1920, online at Ancestry.com.
33 U.S. Passport Applications 1795-1925, record for George Rheims, 1918, online at Ancestry.com.
34 George Rheims entry, Espagne 1 January 1919, online at www.ellisisland.org.
35 Travelers are Luncheon Guests. Seattle Daily Times, page 10, column 1.
36 Spring Calls at Olympic Tables, Seattle Daily Times, 13 January 1931, page 10, column 5.
37 To Visit Friends, Seattle DailyB Times, page 20, column 3.
38 News from the South, Seattle Daily Times, 5 June 1939, page 8, column 6.
39 George Rheims entry, New York Passenger Lists 1820-1957, Exeter 18 October 1940, online at Ancestry.com.
40 George L. Rheims entry, U.S. World War II Army Enlistment Records, 1938-1946, online at Ancestry.com.
41 George Loring Rheims entry, U.S. Veterans Gravesites ca. 1775-12006 database, online at Ancestry.com; George L. Rheims death notice, Seattle Daily Times, 15 June 1964, page 39, column 4.
42 George Rheims entry, U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942, online at Ancestry.com.
43 Aristocratic Visitor. Seattle Daily Times, 18 February 1945, page 25, column 5.
44 Family Due Here. Seattle Daily Times, 7 July 1946, page 12, column 4. The article includes a photograph of Anne and George 3rd.
45 Countess Jean de Roussy de Sales. Seattle Daily Times, 7 October 1948, page 14, column 2.
46 Husband, Son Get Rheims Estate. Seattle Daily Times, 12 August 1954, page 15, column 4.
47 George Rheims Estate Left to Wife in France. Seattle Daily Times, 9 September 1963, page 6, column 5

References and Sources

New York Herald, April 17, 1912
Rustie Brown (1981) The Titanic, the Psychic and the Sea, Blue Harbor Press
Walter Lord (1986) The Night Lives On: Thoughts, Theories and Revelations about the Titanic. London, Penguin. ISBN 0 140 27900 8

Newspaper Articles

The Times (20 April 1912) Other Statements By Survivors
New York Times (22 April 1912) Smith Called Back Half-filled Boats
New York Times (13 May 1912) Flowers For Ocean Grave
Wife of Titanic Victim Strews Then Near Scene of Wreck

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  1. Charles Provost

    Is it possible to obtain the original letter written by George Alexandre Lucien Rheims in French to his wife in France. To my knowledge, I think he wrote it right after the Carpathia docked in New York, and lenght several pages. So far I have been able to recover some bits & captions of it, but never found the entire letter. Thanks to anyone who can help. All my best, Charles Provost
  2. Dave Gittins

    I think that's a good question. There are alleged translations of it about but so much has been made of the allegations in the letter that I'd like to see the original. Too much Titanic evidence has been filtered through newspapers and the like. A notable example is Charlotte Collyer's story, which has obviously been dramatised by the magazine.
  3. Charles Provost

    How true. You are perfectly right. I once saw an English translation of it, not complete, and that seemed to me a little exaggerated. I felt I would make a mistake by buying it. I would give everything I have to see the original letter written in French by Mr. Rheims. The French being my primary language, it would not be too difficult for me to understand it! Thanks for your input, Dave. Charles
  4. Charles Provost

    Anybody knows?
  5. Mike Poirier

    I believe the letter was in the possesion of a nephew named Richard de Roussey de Sales ( sp? ) Mike
  6. Phillip Gowan

    Richard de Roussy de Sales used to live in Dallas but I think he is dead now--at least he would be in his 90's if living. His mother, Lily, was George Rheims' sister. She died in 1948 in San Francisco--I don't know of any living Rheims relatives other than George's grandson, George Loring Rheims (Jr.), who lives in France.
  7. Charles Provost

    Is anyone else puzzled by Mr. Rheim's account? I find some details very confusing. First, his cabin location. In his deposition to the United States District Court, he said that his stateroom was A21 on the port side of the ship. Now, unless I've had too much wine, A21 is located on the starboard side. He even drew a little sketch (exhibit A), marking the location of his stateroom, and sure enough he wrote down "A21" on the port side. To complicate things, A21 is attributed to another passenger, Mr. Brady. Could it be that Mr. Rheims got the number wrong? He seemed to be sure that his cabin was on the port side. Perhaps he inverted the numbers and he really meant A12, which is unoccupied as far as I know? Second, he told the Court that when the ship struck the iceberg, he was coming right out of the bathroom on the forward part of A-deck, and he said that he saw the berg through a window on the starboard side just as he was closing the door to the bathroom. Referring to the... Read full post
  8. Charles Provost

    Just noticed: the deckplans here on ET indicate that there ARE windows on both sides of the passageway where the baths are located. On the White Star Line's "Plan of first class accommodation" (that I was using as a reference), there are no windows. The passageway seems closed on both sides. If the plans reproduced here are right, it is possible that Mr. Rheims was coming out of one of the three "bath rooms" (closer to the elevator hall), and not out of the "gents lavy", which is located urther ahead. I might have cleared my second point all by myself. But his cabin location is still confusing ;-)
  9. Bob Godfrey

    You raise a good point. For somebody standing at the door of either of the two bathrooms at the forward end of A Deck there would be no line of sight to any window. The same goes for two of the bathrooms further back alongside the elevators (there are no windows at the ends of the transverse passage in which they are located). The third (most starboard) of the row opens into the main fore-aft passage and from there a window would be visible at the far end of the passage - facing forward and not likely to provide a view of an iceberg passing to starboard. Also it might just have been possible to see diagonally back through the adjacent 'baize doors' (if they had windows or were open), across the First Class entrance and through one its side windows. That seems unlikely.
  10. Charles Provost

    Very, very interesting Bob. Thanks for your input. It makes you wonder how the whole thing happened. Rheims had no interest in lying to the Court, so I don't see why he would make up such a situation. He even went as far as providing a sketch so his words could be verified. Are you positive there were no windows at the ends of the transverse passage in line with the bath rooms? Some plans indicate there were, others don't.
  11. Bob Godfrey

    I've not seen a plan which shows windows at the ends of that particular transverse passageway. If Rheims' account is accurate, then the only possibility for him to see anything other than solid walls as he turned to the right at a bathroom door on A Deck is the view backwards and to starboard from the one bathroom which opened onto the main corridor, and that would require a line of site through the 'baized doors' (which did have glazed ports) at the end of the corridor, across to a window at the far corner of the First Class entrance, then through the small windows of the walled-in promenade deck which were some distance beyond that. A bit of a stretch, but maybe just possible. See the impression attached, which gives a very rough idea of what he could have seen from the bathroom doorway in the main corridor (the 'baized doors' in the corridor have been omitted for clarity). One further oddity, though. That particular trio of bathrooms was intended for use by ladies, so Rheims... Read full post
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  12. Charles Provost

    Honestly, I don't know what to make of this! Another mystery...
  13. TimTurner

    I haven't had time to look into the details of this yet, but the subject interests me. I see two possibilities here, either the man is lying, or he didn't understand where he was at in the ship, or our understanding of the facts is in some way wrong. 1. It's possible he lied about the iceberg just to get his name in the paper and have a good story to tell. Seeing the iceberg is a lot more interesting than just having been there. 2. It sounds like this man doesn't know his starboard from his port. He might have been lost, and given the wrong location. If so, then there must be a bathroom nearby, possibly up a deck or down a deck, which does meet the conditions specified. Where can I see a copy of Mr. Rheim's deposition?
  14. Bob Godfrey

    There are certainly differing views about where Rheims' cabin was actually located (some have suggested B Deck) but I think you'll find no bathroom or toilet on any deck that would offer any better prospect of glimpsing a passing iceberg. And a merest glimpse is all he could have had in the scenario I've suggested. An impression of light reflected back from something passing by and seen through three layers of windows - he certainly couldn't have seen enough to draw a picture of the berg, which is what he seems to have done. Rheims' deposition can be seen on the Titanic Inquiry Project website.
  15. TimTurner

    Thank you, I found his deposition. I was looking in the wrong place. Notably, he claims to have had some memory loss due to the accident, so it may be he has an unusually imperfect memory of the events. His deposition was also given in November 1913, over a year and a half after the sinking. His iceberg drawing is not the iceberg he saw out the window. He only saw "something white" out the window. The iceberg drawing is of the nearest and largest of 4 icebergs he saw in the morning at about dawn. It was about 2 miles off from him. Also important to this discussion is his drawing of the lavatory (http://www.titanicinquiry.org/images/lol/rheims2.gif). On this diagram, he indicated that the top was forward. He also seemed to recall that that forward wall was full of windows. Possibilities: 1. It was the smoking room lavatory, but he forgot or confused the details. (The smoking room lavatory would have offered an excellent view) 2. It was the Gentleman's lavatory in forward A... Read full post

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Titanic Passenger Summary

Name: Mr George Alexander Lucien Rheims
Age: 33 years 3 months and 9 days (Male)
Nationality: American
Marital Status: Married to Marie Lamoine Loring
Last Residence: in Paris, France
Occupation: Businessman
Embarked: Cherbourg on Wednesday 10th April 1912
Ticket No. 17607, £39 12s
Rescued (boat A)  
Disembarked Carpathia: New York City on Thursday 18th April 1912
Died: Friday 1st March 1963 in Biarritz, France aged 84 years
Cause of Death:

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