Mr and Mrs Edward Gifford Crosby

[Mike]

Colonel Gracie's book lists Mrs. Crosby as escaping in boat 5. Recent research into Elmer Taylor's account seems to indicate that the Crosbys were with him and his wife in boat 7. In that case, how could Officer Pitman (definitely in boat 5) have wrapped a sail around Mrs. Crosby to keep her from freezing (according to Walter Lord)? Or is that something he could have accomplished while the two boats were tied together?

 

[Mike Poirier]

Where does Taylor's account say he was definitely in boat 7? No one else from boat 7 mentions them in their accounts. From what I understand Elmer Taylor jumped into 5 right before it was lowered.

 

[Mike]

My source is item 3 under "Notes From the Lifeboat Lists", where it is stated people were "put into" Mr. Taylor's boat, rather than "taken out" of it, thus indicating boat 7 rather than boat 5. Mr. Pitman transferred four(?) people from boat 5 to boat 7 to even things out (Mrs. Dodge wanted to leave anyway).

Any ideas?

 

[Peter Engberg-Klarström]

The Crosbys entered a lifeboat with Mr and Mrs Taylor. Mr Taylor stated in a lengthy interview quoted in the Atlantic Daily Bulletin that he left in an early boat, into which four or five people were put. Mrs Crosby also said she was in either the first or the second boat that left the ship. Mr Taylor also gave a few other references to boat 7 in the article mentioned above. With the Taylors and the Crosbys, there were indeed 28 people in that boat (Col Gracie thought Robert Daniel was in that boat, but Mr Daniel was mentioned as one of the passengers in No 3 by one of the ladies in that boat).

 

[Peter Engberg-Klarström]

Officer Pitman never mentioned this as far as I know; Mrs Crosby said in her account that 'an officer' gave her a sail to keep her from the cold. On the other hand, Mrs Crosby said there were two officers in her boat, and I have a feeling she thought the two lookouts in her boat, i e Hogg and Jewell, counted as officers.

 

[Michael Findlay]

Hi Peter and Mike,

After reading Elmer Taylor's memoirs again, I believe that the Taylors and Crosbys were in boat #7. While Taylor never remembered the boat number, he did mention that the passengers who were transferred were "taken into" his boat, not "taken out." For years, I always had the group in #5 (largely due to Mrs. Crosby's account and Colonel Gracie's detective work.)

Many passengers in boat #7 remember that there were twenty-eight people in the boat. This number could not be reached until the four passengers were transferred from boat #5. Mr. and Mrs. Bishop, as well as other occupants of #7, remembered that twenty-eight people were lowered in the boat prior to boat #5 arriving for the transfer. The Taylors and Crosbys must have been in #7 in order for the count to be right.

Michael Findlay

 

[Mike]

Thanx for the replies. The Crosbys being in boat 7, the first boat away, would fit in better with Captain Crosby's determination to get them off the ship (as recounted by Lord in "A Night to Remember") than waiting for the second boat, #5.

 

[Trent Pheifer]

Hey everyone I have a quick question,

Were these two born on the same day and in the same year? I was looking through my stuff and noticed it, I was wondering if I had just miscopied it somewhere or if it was true. Thanks for any help you can provide me!

-Trent

 

[Phillip Gowan]

Hey Trent,
Edward G. Crosby was born in Rochester, New York on February 18, 1842. Mrs. Crosby was born in Waterloo, New York on October 26, 1847.

Hope all is well with you-
Phil

 

[Trent Pheifer]

Hey Phil,

Thanks for clearing that up. It seemed impossible for them to be born on the same day same year! I have another question for you, With all the dates that you have regarding passengers and the ship, how do you keep it all organized? Is there a program that you can buy that makes it easier to find specific events, and jump from day to day? I was just wondering, b/c the dates I have been collecting are adding up, 30 pages now, and it is getting hard to find certain dates and go through the data on the computer. Thanks again for all the help!

-Trent

 

[Phillip Gowan]

Hi Trent,
I have all that information inserted into an EXCEL spreadsheet and I do a criteria search on it when I'm looking for a specific name, place or date. It took me a long time to create the spreadsheet but it is easily maintained and now I just go into randomly and add or correct anything I need to. Besides the alphabetical spreadsheet, I've also created a few others that rank things like oldest to youngest, order of the survivor deaths, etc. I've not done one to capture the information in a calendar type arrangement like you're doing, but I'd think just a plain excel spreadsheet starting on January 1, and running the full 365 days would work well--it would just take a while to create it.

Thanks for your efforts--always enjoy reading whose events fall on the same anniversary.

Sometime you'll have to come to South Carolina and let me show you the "collection."

My best,
Phil

 

[Trent Pheifer]

Sounds good, if I'm ever down that way I'll give you a call!

Thanks for the tip on the EXEL form, I have mine in Lotus right now so maybe I will transfer it to EXEL so that I can search through the info more easily. It's great to hear that you enjoy the calendar, it makes all the work worth it!! I was doing the math and once I hopefully find everyone's birthday the calendar will be over will be about 100 pages! Yikes lol. Still got a lot of work! Thanks again for all the help!

-Trent

 

[elizabeth anne]

Does anyone have any information about Harriet R Crosby?I would really like some, and anything helps.

 

[Andrew Maheux]

Elizabeth,

If you havent all ready, check her biography. There is some info on her in the book "Titanic The Great Lakes Connection"

My best,

Andrew M.