Could RMMV Oceanic III have won the Blue Riband?

ADeblois

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Hello everyone,

In my view, I see the Oceanic III as the ultimate WSL liner, combining the diesel propulsion of the MV Britannic/Georgic along with the spaciousness of the RMS Majestic, the largest vessel operated by White Star Line ever.

Just a question I want to ask that has been bouncing around in my head. With all the greatness that could have been Oceanic III, do you think it would have been possible for her to gain the Blue Riband from Bremen had she entered service, say in 1932 time frame? This would also have made her the FIRST diesel-powered liner ever to win the speed record, correct?
 
>>Just a question I want to ask that has been bouncing around in my head. With all the greatness that could have been Oceanic III, do you think it would have been possible for her to gain the Blue Riband from Bremen had she entered service, say in 1932 time frame? <<

Depends on what sort of speed the ship was designed to do and whether or not the engines had sufficient horsepower to overcome the resistance of the hull form. White Star has officially walked away from any attempt at breaking speed records well before this ship was even conceived. Since diesel powered vessels were designed primarily to be economical rather then speed demons, I doubt very much that this ship was designed to be able to do this.
 

I've read online somewhere (can't remember the link right now) that she was "always to be a 30-kt ship", which in my view would have put her in the running for the Blue Riband against Cunard's Queen Mary and the French Line's Normandie.

Other than the 'possibility' of her capturing the speed record, if you compared diesel-electric systems vs. steam turbine systems (geared and turbo-electric), which one would you think would have the edge in terms of being able to be 'forced' beyond their normal ratings in order to achieve record-breaking speed?
 
At the time, the Turbine or turbo-electric would have had a distinct advantage. The systems available had more power to work with. I think a diesel intended to achieve 30knots would have been overly ambitious for the time.
 
Oceanic III

At the time, the Turbine or turbo-electric would have had a distinct advantage. The systems available had more power to work with. I think a diesel intended to achieve 30knots would have been overly ambitious for the time.

According to an older post by Timothy Trower:


This clearly proves two things: that Oceanic III was to be a 1000 foot liner, as well as having the most powerful engine installation of any merchant ship, before or since. Even more powerful than the SS United States built 3 decades later! I truly believe that H&W had the technical know-how to engineer such powerplants and make them function reliably...just my own opinion.
 
>>Even more powerful than the SS United States built 3 decades later! I truly believe that H&W had the technical know-how to engineer such powerplants and make them function reliably...just my own opinion. <<

They may have, but they would have been breaking new ground if they had. It's a shame that the Great Depression threw a monkey wrench into it all.
 
Hello there! It's great to have known that somebody else is thinking the same thing I am. I do 95% believe R.M.M.V Oceanic III possibly could have won the blue riband. She was designed to be a desiel-electric liner that would reach over 1000 FT long, have an estimated width of about 120 FT and a possible GRT of about 65-70,000+ tonnes. Now as I mentioned, she was designed to be a desiel-electric liner and having four (possible) four bladed propellers and have an estimated speed of about 28.5-29.1 knots, meaning, if she was completed, she could of not only been the largest and most powerful desiel-electric ocean liner in the world, but also maybe the fastest. So yes I do agree that she could of been the fastest liner in the world, if completed, possibly up until the S.S. Normandie stole the blue riband in 1935. I am in full agreement with you.
 

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