Ryan Thompson
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32" long? Wow, I thought it would be bigger because of all the detail.
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Oceanic III
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Richard Edwards
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The H&W builders model posted above is almost certainly Belgenland. Compare the aft superstructure and open and enclosed prom decks of the model to any photo of Belgenland on the net and you will see that they match perfectly.
That model is definitely NOT Oceanic.
Cheers, Rich
That model is definitely NOT Oceanic.
Cheers, Rich
Patrick McKinney
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To illustrate the point further:
http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20Ships/Old%20Ships%20B/slides/Belgenland-05.html
Belgenland from nearly the same view. Compare closely with the so-called Oceanic 'builders model'.
Even in early planning Oceanic would likely have had a more streamlined, single continuous superstructure, as opposed to Belgenland's separate deck houses.
http://www.photoship.co.uk/JAlbum%20Ships/Old%20Ships%20B/slides/Belgenland-05.html
Belgenland from nearly the same view. Compare closely with the so-called Oceanic 'builders model'.
Even in early planning Oceanic would likely have had a more streamlined, single continuous superstructure, as opposed to Belgenland's separate deck houses.
Shiplover
Member
Where's the proof of saying 935 feet long???
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Hello and welcome to the forum,
As Richard stated in his post, he obtained the information from the General Arrangement plans supplied by Harland & Wolff.
Shiplover
Member
Hi, nice to meet u!! ^_^. So i heard that this ship could also be 1.050 feets long is that true??
Jason D. Tiller
Member
Yes but that was only the estimated length, according to this website which appears to have plenty of good information:
Although there also appears to be a length of up to 1,080 feet mentioned, but yet again an estimated length:
M.V. Oceanic | White Star Moments
Oceanic was the name of the 1,000ft diesel-engined liner designed for the White Star Liner in the late 1920s. She would have been not only the largest liner in the world but also likely the fastest to ever cross the Atlantic. The Great Depression along with mismanagement sealed the fate of this...
Shiplover
Member
Okay thnxs for the info!! ( ╹▽╹ )Sí, pero esa fue solo la duración estimada, según este sitio web que parece tener mucha buena información:
Aunque también parece haber una longitud de hasta 1.080 pies mencionados, pero una vez más una longitud estimada:
M.V. Oceanic | White Star Moments
Oceanic was the name of the 1,000ft diesel-engined liner designed for the White Star Liner in the late 1920s. She would have been not only the largest liner in the world but also likely the fastest to ever cross the Atlantic. The Great Depression along with mismanagement sealed the fate of this...whitestarmoments.wixsite.com
Jason D. Tiller
Member
You're welcome!
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The clip was issued Oct 1928 and includes a reference to the keel belonging to a 1000ft liner named Britannic.
Britannic III, was never intended to be 1000ft, so I wondered if the keel was in fact that of Oceanic III.
Bearing in mind that Britannic III was laid down 14 April 1927 and launched 6 August 1929, I'm sure that work on her hull would have progressed further than that seen in a clip dated October 1928. Therefore, the conclusion must be that the keel in the clip could be that of Oceanic III.
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The clip was issued Oct 1928 and includes a reference to the keel belonging to a 1000ft liner named Britannic.
Britannic III, was never intended to be 1000ft, so I wondered if the keel was in fact that of Oceanic III.
Bearing in mind that Britannic III was laid down 14 April 1927 and launched 6 August 1929, I'm sure that work on her hull would have progressed further than that seen in a clip dated October 1928. Therefore, the conclusion must be that the keel in the clip could be that of Oceanic III.
Liner.Guy.844
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I know this is a very old thread but I do want to ask this anyways. Is it possible to get photographs of the plans used to create this model of Oceanic III? I understand that they are under Harland and Wolff's copyright, but, I think the plans should be shared in a way so they don't get lost to time, even if its a sketch rendition of them. The plans used to lay the keel and the supposed "redesign" after Bremen and Europa's success are most likely lost to time. It would be a shame to loose these plans as well. They are probably the closest thing we have to Oceanic's completed deck plans.
Jonathan Granato
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A labour of love. Seriously magnificent!
Jonathan Granato
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I've always wondered if the staterooms and cabins were inside ones due to any light being seen from another ship could identify the QE. Did she sail with any identifying lights on the voyage to New York?
Seumas
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She would have sailed completely "blacked out". All the portholes and scuttles would have been covered up.