Last Log of the Titanic

OK, Landlubber, you can panic again.

I, like you, have often wondered about the use of the term, "commutator" for the device in the wheelhouse. I have several navigation and seamanship books from the early 1900s and have never run into the word. However, "commutator" is described in the inquiry transcripts, plain as day. Not being a THS member, the question didn't hold a high priority, so it faded unresolved and unasked into the general noise in my brian.

Your post brought the question to the fore again. I gave Bill Sauder a quick call, because I know of no other who has studied contemporary documentation as much as he. His response was that he has never seen the word "commutator" used anywhere other than the Titanic Inquiry transcripts to describe what is, in effect, a clinometer. His feeling is that the word was either mistakenly used or transcribed, and that the error has propagated down through the years.

When I hung up the phone, one of my co-workers, who overheard the conversation, came over to ask me why I was interested in commutators. He was an engineer aboard Aegis destroyers and he informed me that in all shipboard CHT (Collection, Holding & Transfer) systems, the "commutator" refers to the device in the CHT holding tanks that smashes the clumps in collected human waste to a more liquid form, so that it won't clog the overboard discharge pipes. I subsequently verified this with the other engineers in my section...that appears to be the only valid nautical use of the term (the electrical definition refers to all alternators, land and marine use).

So, yes...I kid you not...the THS journals are named either after a decades-old transcription error or a defecation liquifier.

Parks
 
Egad, from measuring the list of the ship to pulping The contents of the CHT tanks! If nothing else, this demonstrates how fluid and changable language can be in even a short period of time.

FWIW, the device for measuring a ships list was always called a clinometer anytime I was in earshot. I never paid much attention to it since a guy in my rating rarely ever got up to the navigation bridge for any reason. So long as I wasn't walking on bulkheads and overheads, I was a happy camper.

Perhaps David can tell us what his source was. If were lucky, we can buy it. (That scream you hear is my Visa card begging for mercy again. )

Cordially,
Michael H. Standart
 
Next you'll tell me LOL stands for Little Old Lady. This started out as a serious question for Dave, whose book "Last Log" is definitely keeping me from sawing off any. Sounds like this question needs to be snail-mailed to Mr. Kamuda for an official answer in a future TITANIC CLINOMETER.

Laughing Out Loud in Liquid Litter
 
Commutator--clinometer--what's the difference? We all know what Hitchens meant.

I'm of the personal (i.e. unsupported by research) opinion that Hitchens was under some strain during his testimony. He wanted to sound knowledgeable by using technical terms, but his brain picked the wrong one. So?

English as spoken by the "under classes" often misused words deliberately. This tendency is one of the defining characteristics of the Cockney dialect. We can't hear Hitchens' dialect in the written testimony, so I'm not suggesting he was Cockney. My point is that he may have over-reached his vocabulary in speaking about the events of April 14-15, 1912.

But, we have wandered far afield from the purpose of this meeting...

-- David G. Brown
 
Oh, but you received a serious answer to your serious question. It just so happens that the answer has a humourous undertone, despite my effort to make it dry and technical (you should hear the nicknames that the sailors have for the system...now, that's funny!). The main point to take away here is that even the Bible of Titanic research -- the inquiry transcripts -- can be subject to error, even when the subject appears to be innocuous. It always pays to question.

Parks
 
David:
You're right. Perhaps this Commutator thing should be taken to another thread. I'll post one under General Titanic Questions.

In the meantime, I'm working slowly through your book, jotting down questions and comments. My wife (who avoids most things Titanic) even commented this morning: "You've been on that one quite awhile haven't you? You usually plow right on threw them?" Your book is very provocative. And I am very impressed with how receptive you are to the dialog here on ET. This feels like an online book signing.

Parks:
I really thought sure you were pulling my leg (or even commutating it) at the expense of the THS. Whoda thunk it really was waste treatment jargon.
 
Mike,

No need to start a new thread on the Commutator...I, for one, have given you all I can. I swear, though, on a stack of inquiry transcripts, that I was not pulling your leg while answering your question. It just so happens that reality can sometimes be as funny as fiction.

Parks
 
Hi Guys!

Hm, sounds like I can add this one to the Christmas list. Especially since I know the local bookstore has a few copies.

Thanks Parks for the commutator information. Wonder why THS picked that as a name to begin with. You seem good at picking up on the little known Titanic lore. Any word on the mast head light?

Cheers!
Bonnie
 
David & Parks,

I'm sure one of you could probably answer this question for me. What is a Logometer? Where was this instrument located on the Titanic? I assume it was located inside the wheelhouse. I cannot find this term in any of the many books in my library. I would appreciate any thoughts on this.

Kind Regards,
Gary
 
Hi Gary (et al)

Hope I can join in here!
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According to my online dictionary, a logometer is a: "device or scale for measuring chemical equivalents." Mind you, I've got no idea why Titanic might need/have such a device!

Hope someone can enlighten us.

Regards,
Paul.
 
Logometer? Is this in response to the one on display at the Chicago exhibit?

A logometer is a mechanical log, trailed behind the ship. A small propeller in the torpedo-shaped device turns in the ship's wake and twists a cable, which is connected to a gears inside a gauge mounted near the docking bridge (the guage is what is on display in Chicago). Distance is registered on the face of the dial and checked at known intervals; in that way, the ship's average speed through the water can be calculated (which must then be adjusted for set and drift before distance traveled relative to the ocean floor can be calculated).

Parks
 
I came on the term "logometer" in a "bandwagon" book some time ago but I've never seen it in any nautical context. I think the writer made the term up as he didn't know what to call it. Any of you pros actually heard the term used?

On "commutator" I've always thought Hichens was talking through his hat. He had a vastly overinflated idea of his nautical knowledge, as can be seen in his ET biography. Yet it was he who asked if there was a buoy close to the wreck site. Some "master mariner"!
 
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