Lifeboat drill

We must all be grateful to David H for taking such trouble to share his experience with us. I'm sure we now have a greater understanding of the problems faced by the crew. To add to the difficulties mentioned by David, it's a matter of record that people stood on the tails of the falls while the seamen were trying to work with them. A big help!

In 1912, it was realised that there were problems with the training of seamen. There was no formal training outside of the Royal Navy and certain training ships, such as Conway. Even RN training did not necessarily transfer to the merchant service, because the RN often relied on having large numbers of ratings on hand. For instance, the RN routinely hoisted its seaboats on board by the use of simple two-part purchases and numerous ratings, who tailed on the falls. An old RN man told me of rigging huge stern awnings on battleships in a matter of a few minutes, using a hundred or so ratings. Obviously this did not happen on merchant ships.

In 1912, the rating of Able Seaman was obtained by three years of satisfactory service as an Ordinary Seaman. As Ordinary Seamen tended to spend their time scrubbing decks or painting, it was possible to become an Able Seaman with very limited skills.

The Board of Trade was aware of problems. In 1910, a Board of Trade advisory committee noted "the failure on the part of certain shipping companies to carry out the recommendations of the Advisory Committee respecting the crews engaged in the deck department on British vessels, and this Committee recommends that, in future, all seamen engaged for the deck department be qualified seamen and prove such qualification, either by producing three years' certificates of discharge, or, failing this, by proving that they have knowledge of the compass, can steer, do ordinary splices of wire and hemp rope, tie ordinary knots, and have a knowledge of the marks and deeps of the lead-line."

Officers of the Board of Trade also were critical. Captain Alfred Young told Mersey's court of seeing "methods of putting out boats which were a disgrace to the service". Captain Maurice Clarke was not questioned in court about crew competency, but on 12 May he had strongly condemned the general standard of seamen in a memorandum to Sir Walter Howell, though he made an exception for Titanic's crew. (Sir Walter Howell was in charge of the Marine Department of the Board of Trade).

The problems extended to officers. At Mersey's inquiry, counsel for the Imperial Merchant Service Guild told the court, "The certainty is that none of those officers had ever before had to lower a boat full of people, and I do not suppose there are a dozen officers in the merchant service who have ever had practical experience of lowering a boat from a ship's side full of people."

Before 1912, proposals for improved training of seamen came to nothing. Officials of the Board of Trade could see only practical difficulties in testing seamen. They didn't want to hold up ships and annoy the owners. Captain Maurice Clarke, who inspected Titanic at Southampton, wrote that he often found "ABs wholly incompetent to row in even moderate weather and sea." It was Clarke's custom to turn a Nelsonian eye to such men, because to reject them would have "annoyed the shipowner and perhaps led to litigation."

Sir Walter Howell considered the Board of Trade could do little without new legislation. He told Mersey's court---
"The proposal to test and certify the efficiency of seamen beforehand is also not free from difficulty from the administrative point of view. The present practice, as stated above, is to require that the members of the minimum effective watches shall all be efficient seamen, and if there is any doubt the men are examined on board by one of the nautical Surveyors. This ensures a practical test of the men at the commencement of the voyage, and it has been carried out without difficulty or delay. To test and certify the efficiency of the men beforehand might possibly obviate the necessity for a visit by the Surveyor, but the tests, if they are to be of real value to masters and men, would have to be systematised and standardised and protected from impersonation and fraud. Apart from the practical difficulties which this would entail, the Board feel great hesitation in attempting to inaugurate such a system by departmental instructions without express statutory authority."

The Titanic disaster inspired the first SOLAS convention, which commenced on 12 November 1913 in London, chaired by Lord Mersey. Other than Australia and New Zealand, the only participants were the main European users of the North Atlantic.

The Convention recognised the need to train many members of ships' crews, whether seamen or not, in lifeboat work. Article 54 required the participating nations to issue certificates to persons qualified by training in lifeboat operation. Article 56 required crews to be informed of their emergency stations and duties before sailing. Article XLVII prescribed the number of certificated lifeboat crew to be carried. The new regulations were to come into force on 1 July 1915.

World War I prevented the Convention from coming into force. However, many of its recommendations were implemented piecemeal by ocean-going nations and the standard of crew training was improved. Women began to participate and a few attained positions as lifeboat coxswains. The second SOLAS Convention of 1929 was the first to be formally adopted by the participating nations, though it was not fully ratified until 1936. Many nations were still not signatories to SOLAS and their ships were not bound by its regulations.

The current SOLAS regulations are far too extensive to be quoted here. They place a heavy emphasis on crew training. A new crewmember must receive training in emergency procedures within two weeks of joining a ship. This must include first aid, fire-fighting, liferaft operation and emergency operations in heavy weather.

Passengers are now included in emergency training, a procedure ridiculed by Lord Mersey in 1912. They must assemble at emergency stations within 24 hours of sailing.

Emergency drills involving only the crew are prescribed. The procedures are intended to ensure that emergency boats and lifeboats are always serviceable. It must be possible for two crewmembers to prepare a lifeboat for lowering in less than five minutes. The evacuation of all passengers and crew must take less than 30 minutes.

Whether all ships meet these requirements is another thing. In many nations, formal training of deck crew is available but this is not universal. Serious deficiencies in crew training are still commonly seen on freighters, particularly those flying flags of convenience. Ship detention lists frequently mention seamen ignorant of emergency procedures. This extends to officers, who sometimes do not know how to operate the modern satellite-based emergency communication equipment. Officers have even been detected using forged certificates. There is still much to be done before the 80,000 ships crossing the world's oceans are all expertly officered and crewed.
 
Much of what David Gittins has written is correct and was a typical example of how all nations needed to tidy up their acts. With the lucrative North Atlantic trade, I don't think there were any ''perfect'' operators out there at that time.
Safety at sea was strictly adhered to when I was at sea regarding fire fighting, boat drills and general shipboard safety issues. For instance, Union Castle line always held a boat race across Cape Town dock during boat drills to add a bit of fun and ''zip'' to boat drills.
This was an all win situation with the crew, being timed, improving their rowing skills, and quite a bit of money changing hands on bets for a run ashore later.
Regarding double banked lifeboats, many ships such as troopships and emigrant ships operating from Southampton during the 1950's and 60's had their boats stowed this way and with the use of the Welwyn, were quite successful.
As a point of interest, those in use on the Titanic were about as big as they got and compare favourably with everything I've worked with although with a double banked arrangement they were a bit higher. The ''Empire'' troopships were mostly double banked as I recall as were my old ships, the Royal Mail Lines, Alacantara, her sister ship Asturias, Cunard Lines Ascania and the Empire Ken which I served on during the Suez Canal crisis.
As we were operating in a war zone we were told that a medal had been struck and that we qualified. Typical of the merchantman, I can't recall anyone bothering to follow it up although some of us got a veterans badge for our troubles.!
Other users in the port with this lifeboat set up were the Cunarders Scythia and Samaria as I recall.
The Empire Windrush also had the double banked set up and began sinking in the Mediterranean after a fire in the engine room which was around the mid 1950's. All hands including troops and their families were all saved apart from 3 or 4 that were killed in the engine room explosion which was proof that this lifeboat set up was quite successful.
There were electric winches, but all lifeboats are lowered by gravity in case of power failure which of course is common sense. The electric winches would be used for retrieving wire falls for secondary abandonment procedures and a great help when all lifeboats are lowered in port and towed to the ship yard for general overall. Getting that lot back onboard without the use of winches doesn't bear thinking about!
Lifeboats, davits and boat drills are not the seamans favourite pastime working with them in my experience but nevertheless, fully realised as a necessary evil. Their presence on all ships is reassuring to all who sail the seven seas and without them, no one would ever set foot on a ship for love or money.
Throughout a ship's life span they may never be used, take up a lot of deck space and cost the shipowners sheds full of money to maintain.
On cargo ships we would lower a boat now and then to touch up the boot topping or the plimsole line in preferrence to staging but other than that, they may never save a single life from builders yard to breakers yard.
As a point of interest,some years after Titanic, lifeboats were also fitted with capsize lines. This was a sturdy piece of white sisal fixed to the gunwale fore and aft on one side and going under the boat, being secured to the gunwale on the other side. There would be considerable slack but whilst the boat is in the stowed position, the slack would be taken up with a sheepshank.
If a lifeboat, which should float quite high with it's floatation tanks, turns turtle (capsized) those standing on the upturned hull, could all pull on these lines and on leaning back, should be able to right the boat. They will naturally all get a wet arse but will have for their trouble, a boat that only needs baling out.

Finally, I've appreciated your responses and kind words to this practical aspect of what may have happened on Titanic's boat deck and it's refreshing to debate the probable events that may have taken place.

David H
 
Thanks David Haisman and Dave Gittens for some very informative posts. We all appreciate a little more what was accomplished that cold, dark night so many years ago by so few for so many.
 
I believe that if a boat drill had been held, not only would the crew have known what to do with the boats, where to go, and lower them with a considerable amount of people onboard, but the entire evacuation of the ship would have went quicker and smoother.
 
Jack, if a drill had been held, I strongly doubt it would have made as much of a difference as you might think. Keep in mind that back then, a lifeboat drill didn't involve mustering the passengers or even in trying to get all the boats away. What they did was get the crews together, made sure they understood their assignments, and occasionally, they would swing out one or two of the boats. Except for when they were in port, they were never launched.

You might want to carefully parse the previous 50 posts in this thread. That the Titanic's "Untrained" crew managed to get 18 of 20 away in the time they had without any serious incident was an incredible achievement.
 
Jack, the entire concept of carrying lifeboats on passenger ships back in 1912 is very different than today. They were not intended to get as many people off safely in the shortest possible time. In a sense they were carried on board because outdated regulations required a certain minimum number to be carried which had nothing to do with the number of SOBs. And why have an emergency drill with passengers going to stations as required today if half of them couldn't get in a boat anyway? The boats were considered more of a formality than anything else, something that might be used in case people had to be transferred to another vessel should some emergency arise. Passenger vessels of the early 1900s were thought to be their own lifeboat, capable of staying afloat long enough for help to arrive. As Capt. Smith had remarked several years before, "I cannot imagine any condition which would cause a ship to founder...Modern shipbuilding has gone beyond that."
 
There was a lifeboat drill aboard Titanic prior to departure from Southampton. While the BOT inspector could have required all boats and all crews to be exercised, Mr. Clarke was willing to accept the working of two boats. Two was the minimum required under BOT regulations.

In 1912, boat drills did not involve passengers. They were for the purpose of making sure the boat crews knew how to launch the boats and handle them under oars.

There could not have been a modern boat drill involving passengers simply because there there were not enough seats in the boats for everyone. This was not considered a problem, however, because the boats were looked up on more as ferries to transfer the passengers and crew to rescue ships. Instead of an assigned seat, it was sufficient that everyone would get a seat eventually as the evacuation proceeded.

Things really haven't changed all that much since Titanic. The idea of a stricken vessel acting "as its own lifeboat" is still with us. We just don't brag about unsinkability. But, modern ships are designed to either stay afloat or sink slowly enough that passengers and crew can be transferred to safety. In effect, if a liner floats long enough for everyone to be rescued, that ship has met the "own lifeboat" criterion.

Never forget that not one life is actually saved by launching a boatload of people from a sinking ship. Those lives may, in fact, be in worse danger in the small boat. Nobody is "saved" until they are removed from the lifeboat onto a larger ship (or, sometimes a helicopter) for transfer to land. So, modern lifeboats are still just a tiny ferry intended to transfer people from one ship to another.

I am always amused and amazed by people who think that just by putting people into a lifeboat is amounts to that famous storybook ending, "and they all lived happily ever after." Those words are a great ending for fairy tales, but real life is more demanding. Nobody lives happily ever after in a lifeboat.

Lifeboat rescues work much two children playing catch. One child has to throw the ball accurately, the other catch it. If the sinking ship cannot launch its boats (throw the ball), there is no rescue. Likewise if there is no rescue ship to accept the lifeboats (catch the ball), there is no rescue.

An illustration was the sinking of Andrea Doria. Several wanna-be rescue ships showed up, but could not handle lifeboats or lifting people from lifeboats. There was no rescue despite help in the form of those ships being on the scene.

I suspect that if you want to ask a really embarasing question on your next cruise, ask one of the officers specifically how you will get out of the lifeboat if the cruise ship sinks. Hmmm... Bet he'll mumble something about the Coast Guard and find work to be done somewhere else in the ship.

But, at least ships have lifeboats. Ever try asking a stewardess for a parachute in an airliner?

-- David G. Brown
 
>>Nobody lives happily ever after in a lifeboat.<<

Some don't live at all, even today. It's not unusual in the wake of a shipwreck to find lifeboats and liferafts adrift in the ocean with nobody in them at all. That's happened several times within the past few weeks in the South China Sea. Let's not forget the past example of the Mary Celeste where the passengers and crew took to the boat and were never heard from again even though the ship was found several days later.

Lifeboats are nice to have in a pinch but they just ain't the panacea that some would like to believe they are. They are the court of absolute last resort to be used when the situation is bad and you have no other options.
 
I see now, thanks guys. I went on a cruise last year, and of course they held a boat drill before the ship left port. Although we didn't get into the lifeboats, we had to don life jackets, go to our stations, etc. I guess that I always assumed that even back then passengers were "involved" in the drills. Thanks for putting me in the clear about the subject.
 
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But, at least ships have lifeboats. Ever try asking a stewardess for a parachute in an airliner?

These days if you should ask such a question you'd probably get escorted off the plane before it takes off. Practically there would be no way to use a parachute even if you could bring your own on board. Once you get on a commercial airliner you are taking a risk and have no control over what happens to you. But you better pay attention to the nearest way out should need arise to evacuate the craft in an emergency. Oh by the way, those oxygen masks they talk about, should they deploy while at cruising altitude, you have only about 30 seconds to get it on before you will pass out. They don't tell about that, but that is why they say to get your own on before you try to help someone else.

Also isn't there a requirement these days that lifeboats on a passenger vessel need to be capable of being loaded, and launched all within 30 minutes or something like that?​
 
"Also isn't there a requirement these days that lifeboats on a passenger vessel need to be capable of being loaded, and launched all within 30 minutes or something like that?"

Samuel,

It seems that I also saw something on television that said something like that. Let's see: Alert 3-4 thousand people, get them into their lifejackets and up to their lifeboat stations, get them all into lifeboats and rafts, and launch those lifeboats and rafts off the stricken vessel in a half-hour...RIGHT...
 
It was in 1907 when James Bisset was serving as an officer on the Caronia that an iceberg was spotted "fine on the starboard bow." It was about 3 PM on a Sunday afternoon, an hour before he was to go on watch, and was being asked lots of questions by an inquisitive lady passenger such as why are there icebergs in the summer months in the north Atlantic, what would happen if they would hit the iceberg, etc. She also started asking questions about the lifeboats they had on board, such as how people would they hold and what provisions did they carry. (The Caronia had 40 boats rated for 40 persons each. She was carrying 3,336 SOBs at that time.) Fortunately for Bisset, the chief officer Protheroe came by on his way to the bridge when that lady passenger turned to him and asked, "What food would there be if we had to take to the lifeboats?" Protheroe thought about it for a moment and replied, "Well, there's fresh water, and - ah - biscuits. But there's no menu, you know!" And at that they left to go on watch.
 
Sam-- I have been known to carry SOB's on my boat, and a few nice people, too. We call 'em "POBs" just to avoid discussion of female dogs, etc. You are correct, however in that they are effectively considered as "souls" in that each person counts "one." We cannot combine two little people into a single big 'un when it comes to safety equipment like life vests, or buoyant apparatus.

Also, Sam is correct--do not ask for a parachute these days on an airplane unless you enjoy confined spaces. I'm sure such a question would get a "Go To Jail" treatment.

Launch time requirements for lifeboats are a bureaucratic joke, much like evacuation time tests for aircraft. They cannot replicate real life. Once the excrement hits the ventilating device, the crew does its best--or it doesn't--depending upon factors that go well beyond governmental tests. They key factor is character. Will the crew stand by their tasks, or will the captain be the first to "go for help?"

On modern ships passengers are only involved in lifeboat drills to a very limited extent. The big worry is panic, same as on Titanic. So, everyone is given an embarkation station. That's the extent of passenger drills, beyond learning how to put on a life jacket. There is a dirty secret to embarkation stations, however. You are kept in the dark as to what's taking place on deck. Chances are, you will be the last to know if your lifeboat cannot be launched. That way, nobody in your group will panic or start a rush on any of the working boats.

This idea of preventing panic by not informing the passengers may sound cruel, but the goal of an evacuation is never to save everyone. The goal is to save as many as possible. Therefore, you never put into jeopardy those you can save by being "fair" to those you cannot. A panic and a rush would likely result in much higher loss of life.

As Sam pointed out, when you board anything that flies, floats, or rolls--you are risking your life and limb to some extent. There is no such thing as 100% safety, other than not being born. These days, even the grave is not safe from bulldozers building highways, etc. So, as they used to say, "you pays yer money and takes yer chances."

This is why you may want to check out the railroad, bus line, steamship company, or airline before you plunk down money for a ticket. With ships, you want to know where the vessel is flagged. Ships that sail under third world "flags of convenience" may not be as well-found or have as well-trained crews as those sailing under first-tier national flags. Never forget, you are your only unreplaceable possession.

-- David G. Brown
 
The current SOLAS rules require a lifeboat to be prepared for use by two sailors in five minutes. The ship must be cleared within thirty minutes. If you think that's going to happen in real life, there's a rather nice bridge in Sydney that I'd like to sell you.

Remember that many cruise ships don't have "boats for all". It's common for them to carry enough boats for the passengers while most of the crew use liferafts.
 
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