Henry James Beauchamp

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1. Birth registered as Henry James Beauchamp Ware. Also baptised under this name.

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1. Thanks. As I have now understood it, your great-grandmother was the person Beauchamp had a relationship with in the UK with and begat a son and a daughter from her out of wedlock. The daughter was your father's mother, but could Percy Sharp have been the son? There has been some confusion with Sharp's middle name (Frederick or James) and there is the possibility that the man who travelled with Henry Beauchamp might not have been the same one who was that asylum inmate described in the ET bio here. I have had quite a few e-mails from others but one impression that I got was the Percival Sharp travelling with Henry Beauchamp was a lot younger than 29 years of age. The wording of the letter that Beauchamp wrote to Streeton on board the... Read full post
2. Details follow as promised:- My great grandmother who we believe had two children fathered by Henry James Beauchamp was Lily Moody born 9th May 1974 in Landford, Wiltshire . The two children were Robert John Moody born in Whaddon Alderbury, Wiltshire 15th Apr 1897 and Lily Louisa Moody born Farley, Wiltshire 12th July 1898. These pre-date the marriage of Henry James Beauchamp in 1899. This may explain the reference to "past folly". Lily Moody (snr) did not in fact get married until 1914 and the story told by my grandmother (Lily Louisa) to my father was that her father was going on the Titanic to Canada and planned to send for them after arrival. There is another connection between our family and the Beauchamps in that the elder sister of Lily Moody (snr) married a William Beauchamp on 12th October 1895 in Salisbury who was a second cousin to Henry James. We have no knowledge of Percival Sharp and had supposed that this was just a getting together of convenience to share a cabin... Read full post
3. Thank you very very much for that Tim. Very helpful. That is quite an involving story and certainly explains Henry Beauchamp's allusion to a "past folly". Harriet Beauchamp must have come to know of her husband's history in the months leading up to the voyage. Her anger must have been because Henry had not told... Read full post
4. From what I have read there is a suggestion that many people travelling in 2nd and 3rd class did travel with strangers. There is another thread on this here:- Given that the cost of a 2nd class ticket was £26 (over £3,000 in today's money) I would think that this could well have been prohibitive and although he may well have preferred to travel alone, sharing the cost may have been the only practicable option.
5. Once again, thank you very much for sharing the story. Please pass on my thanks and regards to your father for his help. :)
6. I've been lurking on this thread for a while, but I've been feeling quite chatty this week due to the submersible thread, so excuse me for butting in with a question. How would they be on the same ticket if they're strangers? Would it have been similar to our modern airplane seating system--the equivalent of 'You both have tickets in row G'? Or is this still an outstanding mystery?
7. That's what I am wondering and reading the link Tim provided has not really answered that question. From that I understood that only someone who wanted a cabin to himself/herself had to pay extra for that privilege. If Henry Beauchamp did not mind sharing a... Read full post
8. This is my first comment here having spent a great deal of timing reading many threads and absorbing the different perspectives and approaches each member brings to Titanic history. I am struck that there could be another potential explanation. In this instance, certainly there is little to go on, but it is worth throwing into the mix. Perhaps they were romantically involved. It is entirely possible they were leaving together to commence a new life abroad. Past follies, “mental illness,” a broken marriage, etc. supply the bones of a narrative. Just a thought from a man who grew interested in the Titanic as a child in the 1970s American South. I spent many a night trying to place people in lifeboats based solely on a paperback version of A Night to Remember. The stories and mysteries are too many and too full of life. This is yet another of them, and I figured perhaps it deserved a mention. Since I have nary an interest in the technical operation of the Titanic (that an iceberg was... Read full post
9. Yes, I suppose that is a possibility and would explain the sudden and unpleasant break-up with the family and the apparent use of different surnames later by Beauchamp's children, although officially they all remained Beauchamps for the rest of their lives. But the flaw with that reasoning is that there is no evidence that Henry Beauchamp and Percival Sharp even knew each other until perhaps a few weeks before the voyage; no one in the former's family or friends seem to have known the existence of Percival Sharp, who records show was an inmate at the London County Lunatic Asylum in Norwood, Middlesex till late 1911. Still, I acknowledge that what you... Read full post
10. You buy the cabin under one ticket. It's the same system as on modern Amtrak for overnight sleeping accommodations. You pay a fare for the accommodation, which is meant for two or three people, but you can have fewer people in it. On a train there's a base rate (the same as a coach ticket) per person. I'm not sure exactly how the White Star did it, but basically to game the system, you'd pool your money and buy a single ticket and then share the room. That lets you save a substantial amount of money per person. Because 2nd and 1st class passengers... Read full post
11. Because 2nd and 1st class passengers did not go through Ellis Island and were privileged in entering the US for customs and... Read full post

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