Amateur radio heard SOS in Welsh town 2,000 miles away

What I read was that Captain Smith had requested him for Olympic and Titanic but the board, actually it was Ismay who shot it down because of a superstition. If that turns out to be correct it would be ironic in a way because Jack Binns went to work for Randolph Hearst a few days before Titanic sailed. Most here know that Hearst had it out for Ismay because of a prior beef which he couldn't let go of. And his newspapers made sure to make Ismay out to be a villian.
 
I think there was something rotten and wrong with Marconi’s organisation. The USA Inquiry didn’t get to it, and neither did the British Inquiry because the Attorney General was involved in a corrupt Marconi share scandal with his brother.
I've had doubts about the Marconi Company but can't find solid data to back those doubts up.
The British newspapers made Phillips and Bride heroes, albeit Phillips a dead hero. I have always had a big problem with the Titanic Marconi Wireless Operators ignoring MSGs and specific ice warning messages sent to them, and not taking them to the bridge.
The decision to try and repair the transmitter instead of switching to the backup unit says volumes about Phillips and Bride's regard for the rules, or maybe it should be their disregard for the rules.
I personally think myself (and I know that many of my friends on here and those far more qualified to state an opinion than me and who disagree with me on this point) that Bride and Phillips didn’t do as they should.
Granted, they didn't do as they should, but would it have made a difference if they had? I don't know. How many ice warnings would need to be taken to the bridge before Captain Smith would realize that he should probably reduce the speed? Is it possible that no amount of ice warnings would have changed Captain Smith's mind?
 
Maybe those senior moments that Arun has referenced kicked in earlier than I thought before. Cheers.
Speaking for myself, those "Senior Moments" have started to kick-in so frequently of late that I am beginning to feel like part of a soccer team.

I would have thought it clear that the Binns/Republic incident in 1909 made it certain that Marconi had to sell his invention to the steamship companies on the basis of the additional safety it provided. Not for providing tittle tattle commercial passenger traffic.
I agree completely. If the Marconi Company was negotiating for lucrative contracts like for the Imperial Wireless Chain with the British Government and others like it, revenue from "tittle-tattle" commercial traffic would have been pittance by comparison. I therefore very much doubt that Marconi would have compromised their position by making it appear that they had even hinted to their employee operators that private passenger messages should be considered even alongside Navigational ones, let alone be prioritized over the latter.

That said, I wonder how individual wireless operators like Phillips and Bride felt about their company policy, judging by what Julian and Gordon said about the Marconi Company regulations regarding prioritizing messages at sea. I suppose that depended upon how they were paid for private messaging; if it was an agreed fixed sum, it probably would not have made a difference to them. But, if as I suspect (but am not sure), there were personal commissions involved to the operators themselves for sending out passengers' messages, they might have been tempted to send out as many of them as they could while "editing" the non-MSG Navigational ones, despite what the Marconi Company policy had been. IF, that was what Bride and Phillips did that Sunday night, their actions would then be understandable but certainly not forgivable.

I think there was something rotten and wrong with Marconi’s organisation. The USA Inquiry didn’t get to it, and neither did the British Inquiry because the Attorney General was involved in a corrupt Marconi share scandal with his brother.
I've had doubts about the Marconi Company but can't find solid data to back those doubts up.
Perhaps this was what Julian was referring to: Marconi scandal - Wikipedia
 
I suppose that depended upon how they were paid for private messaging; if it was an agreed fixed sum, it probably would not have made a difference to them. But, if as I suspect (but am not sure), there were personal commissions involved to the operators themselves for sending out passengers' messages, they might have been tempted to send out as many of them as they could while "editing" the non-MSG Navigational ones, despite what the Marconi Company policy had been. IF, that was what Bride and Phillips did that Sunday night, their actions would then be understandable but certainly not forgivable.

According to what I've found, the Marconi operators were paid 1 Pound Sterling a week, approximately $5 per week in American money circa 1912. One of my side hustles is delivering food. Suffice it to say if I have three orders to deliver and one has no tip, it's going to get delivered last. It's as much human nature as anything else. I don't know how prevalent the practice of tipping was in 1912, but I would assume that messages with tips were handled before messages without tips.
 
According to what I've found, the Marconi operators were paid 1 Pound Sterling a week, approximately $5 per week in American money circa 1912. One of my side hustles is delivering food. Suffice it to say if I have three orders to deliver and one has no tip, it's going to get delivered last. It's as much human nature as anything else. I don't know how prevalent the practice of tipping was in 1912, but I would assume that messages with tips were handled before messages without tips.
I also don't how tipping was handled in 1912 but I doubt that it was like anything today where they automatically add tips to your bill is some places. I'm pretty sure that didn't go on on the 1930's where every penny counted. I'm guessing that the well off in 1912 probably tipped for good service but not all of them. Where I used to work the place was full of casino's. Tipping was the life blood of that business. If you were a regular and known to be a good tipper the service was like night vrs day.
 
I also don't how tipping was handled in 1912 but I doubt that it was like anything today where they automatically add tips to your bill is some places. I'm pretty sure that didn't go on on the 1930's where every penny counted. I'm guessing that the well off in 1912 probably tipped for good service but not all of them. Where I used to work the place was full of casino's. Tipping was the life blood of that business. If you were a regular and known to be a good tipper the service was like night vrs day.

Exactly Steve. And we have some discretion when we make deliveries. Customers who regularly tip well will likely find a 2-liter soda added to their order gratis. TIPS is actually an acronym: To Insure Prompt Service.
 
Exactly Steve. And we have some discretion when we make deliveries. Customers who regularly tip well will likely find a 2-liter soda added to their order gratis. TIPS is actually an acronym: To Insure Prompt Service.
Nice. Yes, it's been a long time since I heard that acronym stated. I'll just say a few more things about this before it gets too far off topic. Where I live my state doesn't require that waitresses get paid minimum wage. They factor their tips in the pay. So it's important that people spread the wealth a little when going out to eat here. Up until the last couple of years I traveled a lot. Some places you had to check out because they considered tipping an offense. Other places like Egypt you tipped for everything "Baksheesh" or Bakshish as some spell it. But back to Titanic. Some called the money given to the crewmen in one of the lifeboats a tip. But I never considered that a tip. More like a helping hand because of their situation not for services rendered.
 
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Nice. Yes, it's been a long time since I heard that acronym stated. I'll just say a few more things about this before it gets too far off topic. Where I live my state doesn't require that waitresses get paid minimum wage. They facctor their tips in the pay. So it's important that people spread the wealth a little when going out to eat here. Up until the last couple of years I travelled a lot. Some places you had to check out because they considered tipping an offense. Other places like Egypt you tipped for everything "Baksheesh" or Bakshish as some spell it. But back to Titanic. Some called the money given to the crewmen in one of the lifeboats a tip. But I never considered that a tip. More like a helping hand because of their situation not for services rendered.

IIRC, you're talking about Lady and Sir Cosmo Duff Gordon, who offered all the crew members 5 pounds to allow them to start rebuilding their kits. I'm not at home right now, so I hope I'm thinking of the right people. IIRC, he was criticized for it as "bribing" them to keep people out of the lifeboats.
 
IIRC, you're talking about Lady and Sir Cosmo Duff Gordon, who offered all the crew members 5 pounds to allow them to start rebuilding their kits. I'm not at home right now, so I hope I'm thinking of the right people. IIRC, he was criticized for it as "bribing" them to keep people out of the lifeboats.
Yes your right. Some did say it was a bribe. I looked into that story years ago. I didn't come to the conclusion it was a bribe. If it was for that reason I would think the amount would have been a lot higher. I came to conclusion he was just giving them some money to get thru a rough spot because they had lost everything. Some people believe all rich people are miserly and corrupt. I'm not one of them. Cheers.
 
Yes your right. Some did say it was a bribe. I looked into that story years ago. I didn't come to the conclusion it was a bribe. If it was for that reason I would think the amount would have been a lot higher. I came to conclusion he was just giving them some money to get thru a rough spot because they had lost everything. Some people believe all rich people are miserly and corrupt. I'm not one of them. Cheers.
Amen, Steve, Amen.

I did some video work for a local attorney last Sunday. I quoted him a price that we had agreed to. He paid me more than I had quoted, telling me that he thought I had undervalued my work...WOW! I know, nothing to do with the Titanic, but it does go to show that not all humanity is gone.
 
Maybe they use the word different in England. A commission here in the strict sense is a legal agreement/contract. Tipping at least in most cases is informal/voluntary. Sometimes I use my bankcard to pay for dinner but I always leave my tips in cash regardless of how I pay the bill.

Thank you for the reminder Steven...we are two people separated by a common language.
 
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