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Hello again,

I have saw Bernard Fox in all the roles above, but only recognized him in "Titanic"! Now that you've mentioned his other roles, I'll start paying attention. I have heard Fox portrayed Gracie wrong, because Gracie was American, and he has an English accent in the film. I still liked it though. However, I feel they should have given Gracie more screen time. When I saw the film, I wasn't into the Titanic, and from what Cameron's film shows, it appears that Gracie died in the sinking. Remember how the last time you see him he's standing on the stern as the bow plunges? I thought he was a goner!

I feel that no film, no matter how accurate, could ever portray how the Titanic really went down. There's just too many mysteries and rumors; I think you would just have to have been there.

Well, bye for now.

-B.W.
 
Hey Brandon,

The man standing on the stern was baker Charles Joughin, not Col. Gracie. It's interesting, when I first watched the film the same thing had me confused! From what I recall, we last see Gracie escorting Edith Evans and Caroline Brown to collapsible D.

I also think he deserves more screen time:)

Col. Gracie was an anglophile, so Cameron may have been attempting to convey this through his accent.

Regards,
Ben
 
Hello Ben,

I know that Mr. Joughin is the man on the stern with Rose, but I still thought Gracie died because I saw him standing there with the women. I didn't think he had a chance, plus you don't see him on the boat.

-B.W.
 
Hi Brandon,

Sorry for the confusion! Col Gracie's account of the disaster "The Truth About Titanic" may be of interest to you. During the voyage, Gracie took it upon himself to "look after" some of the "unattached" women in first class. The two women you see in the film are Caroline Brown (left) and Edith Evans (right). They had become seperated from Mrs. Brown's two other sisters.

While the two sisters boarded boat #2, Mrs. Brown and Edith Evans for some unexplicable reason moved from A deck forward on the port side to the aft starboard quarter. Gracie was escorting them forward back to collapsible D which was in the bridge vicinity (and the boat Rose boards but jumps off again in the film), hence Gracie's line "No miss, but there are a couple of boats all the way forward. This way, I'll lead you!" - Fat chance.

After they had arrived at col. D there was apparently only enough room for Mrs. Brown. Edith Evans remained behind and subsequently died in the sinking. Gracie then helped clear away the other two collapsibles A and B on the officers quarters. He survived on the overturend collapsible B after it was washed off.

Sorry to divert wildly from the main topic, but I hope this is of interest and clears up any confusion.

Regards
Ben
 
Hello Ben,

Well, I now know which boat Rose got in and out of! Collapsible D was launched at 2:05 A.M., with only fifteen minutes to spare. Gracie was certainly an interesting man, I think. It's okay with me to wander from my main topic, very rarely does anyone stick to the topics anyway on ET!

I think the idea of the fridge full of meat in the stern and the mailbox is very interesting. ET is basically the only place I'm able to "sort things out"; the wreck is so messed up, that when I'm watching underwater videos, I can't tell what's what! Not to mention that the movies give no reference to time, so I can't determine which boat's which.

-B.W.
 
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