Julie McAllister
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We know for sure Phillips never took to the bridge The Californian's final ice warning message around 11pm on the 14th because he sent Evans "DDD". Evans somewhat watered this down in his 2 testimonies (knobbled by Marconi?). Chris Burton, Marconi expert, was clearly of the view Evans had been sent "DDD" by Phillips.
As for The Mesaba ice warning message, Adams, the wireless operator, gave evidence of this to the British Inquiry, and got a reply that Phillips had got his message, then waited for an official reply from the Captain of Titanic, but none was forthcoming. He gave clear evidence that he heard Phillips continuing to work Cape Race; therefore by clear implication Phillips did not send the message to the bridge, and clearly no MSG from the bridge was sent by Phillips as a reply.
I have not the slightest doubt that Lightoller nor anyone else on the bridge knew nothing whatsoever of The Mesaba ice warning message, same as they knew nothing of the first ice warning message from The Californian, or it's 11pm ice warning message.
I agree with this. Bride, whose testimony was a complete disaster in its own right, was too busy with his accounts to take down an iceberg warning form the Californian and it was only when he heard the Californian tell the Baltic the same message did he bother to write it down, by that time it wasn't an official message.
I agree to this but strongly feel that the Mesaba message was received by Lightoller and not Murdoch, the former being the SO on watch at the time. I also believe that with his mind on other issues like freezing of fresh water and liaising with the lookouts, he neglected to post or even share it. In Paul Lee's article there is mention of how Lightoller gave statements about asking Moody to calculate when they would reach the ice field only to disagree with him, how Murdoch relieved him at a crucial time to have dinner and then being rather vague about what he told the First Officer about the ice warnings. You might just accept one of those statements but taken together, one cannot but get the feeling that Lightoller was covering up for himself, subtly passing the blame (while not appearing to actually do so) to men like Murdoch and Moody who did not survive and so were not in a position to contradict him.
You can't have it both ways. It's unreasonable to think the wireless room, being then only Jack Phillips would've ran an iceberg warning up to bridge in the last 10 minutes of Lightoller's watch, when he already demonstrated working Cape Race was far more important. Californian's operator said as much when Phillis told him to "keep out" and "shut up"
I also believe that with his mind on other issues like freezing of fresh water and liaising with the lookouts, he neglected to post or even share it."
It's called being a conscientious officer. Making sure someone checks the water or warns the lookout about ice and to pass it along the watch until dawn is doing your job. While Lightoller was away for dinner (which he was allowed to have) Murdoch was so worried about a light he had someone close the door so they could see better. Neither men would get a warning mentioning "much heavy pack ice and great number large icebergs also field ice" and say "oh well" and toss it away. without passing it on to either the captain or jr officers.
Lightoller knew the officers by sight, but I'm sure he would struggle to remember their surnames if they never met before the voyage or never cared to socialise. e.g.
Lightoller
Q - Are you quite well acquainted with the officers of this company?
A - I naturally know them by sight.
Similar to the other crew e.g.
Mr. Jones
Q - Do you know the man who was the lookout?
A - No, sir; I only knew him by sight.
Mr. Haines
Q - You do not remember just who they were?
A - I know their faces; but I do not know their names, sir.
You are misquoting Lightoller. That exchange at the inquiry was about the officer of the WSL, not the officers of the bridge which he would most certainly know because he worked with all of them before, except Lowe. Here is the entire exchange:
Senator SMITH.
When did you see Mr. Ismay, with reference to the attempted lowering of this boat?
Mr. LIGHTOLLER.
I saw Mr. Ismay, as I stated to you, sir.
Senator SMITH.
Only once?
Mr. LIGHTOLLER.
Yes, sir.
Senator SMITH.
And that was about 20 minutes after the collision?
Mr. LIGHTOLLER.
Yes, sir.
Senator SMITH.
And there were no other passengers on that deck at that time?
Mr. LIGHTOLLER.
Not that I noticed. I should notice Mr. Ismay naturally more than I should notice passengers.
Senator SMITH.
Why?
Mr. LIGHTOLLER.
Because I know him.
Senator SMITH.
How long have you known him?
Mr. LIGHTOLLER.
Since I have been in the company.
Senator SMITH.
Are you quite well acquainted with the officers of this company?
Mr. LIGHTOLLER.
I naturally know them by sight.
Senator SMITH.
Does he know you?
Mr. LIGHTOLLER.
Oh, he knew me; yes.
Lightoller on 23rd May said on oath he had absolutely no knowledge of The Mesaba ice warning message, and stressed had he or Captain Smith known of it, it would have been of very great importance.
That is NOT "no evidence" that the Mesaba message wasn't delivered; it is testimony of Lightoller that he had absolutely no knowledge of it, as he also stated on oath in respect of The Californian -Antillian ice warning message.
The question - to follow Arun's line of argument - is whether it was Bride who was lying or Lightoller?
Cheers,
Julian
I would be more inclined to believe the officer.